I have joined several "vaccine damage" groups on the Internet. this page is "posts" of letters from those groups.

A relative just found out that her baby born 2 years ago was given a HepB on the 2nd day of life, even though she had stated in her birth plan and told the nurses not to and gave no permission for it to be given. Does she have any recourse in terms of legal action if the hospital cannot produce their signed consent?
Thanks!
 

she needs to talk to a lawyer
that's why you can never leave your baby alone with them

I have a little person in my office who had 10 rounds of antibiotics and 17 vaccines by 20 months of age. Yes, now autistic. That should be assault with deadly weapons and the doctor should be in jail. Instead, the parents were kicked out of their pediatrician's practice for refusing more vaccines and wanting to get their child well. With these annoying, non-compliant parents out of the way, that doctor can continue to do what vaccinators do: Inject toxic substances into children, ruining their health and the lives of the child's family members.

"Even after thimerosal was phased out of pediatric vaccines, autism rates did not fall."

Now why would they fall when thimerosal laden flu shots are being pushed on pregnant women and infants 6 months and up??? I even heard  of an instance where a PREEMIE was given a thimerosal containing flu shot, right along with her Hep B!!!!  Do they think we are stupid by not putting 2+2 together? They never targeted this group until rates began to fall in California where thimerosal was banned...then BOOM! The CDC came out with this  recommendation. They don't WANT these rate to fall..not yet, anyway. They want to wait until they can convince the American public that  they have finally found THE cause, and it will NOT be thimerosal. Then, and only then, will they will phase it out; little by little...  to make it look like thousands of parents were wrong! So leave the  pharmaceutical companies alone, people... after all, they have saved millions of lives and have harmed NO child in the process! 
So, until they can find a safety net...a believable cause of autism...they will continue to assure that those numbers rise, in spite of the supposed removal of thimerosal from childhood vaccines. And we're supposed to trust them with our children's lives???? Sorry, but that just doesn't hold water with those of us whose children suffer!

My son received the Chickenpox Vaccine at 2 years old. Last year, he got a terrible case of shingles. They tell me it's probably due to the strain
of the virus used in the vaccine which became dormant in him and erupted as shingles. The doctor said this is happening a lot now with kids who
have received the Varivax. I wish I could go back in time, he wouldn't have gotten all these vaccines..

I would make a great parent spokesperson. My daughter was developing within normal ranges until she got a hep B shot while still scabbed over with chicken pox at nine months of age. Within two weeks she lost all appropriate babble, refused to breastfeed, stopped eating most foods, stopped pulling up, and pretty much wanted to lay flat on her back. Like an idiot I got her 12 mo MMR. Then the diarrhea started. For six months I went to our pediatrician complaining about a variety of symptoms that included: "zoning out", refusal to eat foods, not pulling up/walking after having done so prior to the shot, not babbling/trying to form words, afraid to be up high like a exam table, etc. Turns out they were all symptoms of autism but the doctor, XXXX XXXX, didn't give a crap. Two weeks before her second birthday, with little help from him, she was given a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.

Of course after making my baby sick by giving her the shot he was no help in trying to treat her. When I shared with him that we (speech path, OT, psychologist, myself, husband) felt she probably had autism his ignorant response was, "Well, I don't think that can be diagnosed until at least three." What ever. Thanks Ms. Pediatrician for that perfectly useless if not downright harmful opine.  However, because I wasn't willing to let his ignorance not help my daughter, I began researching. This was in 2000, before I had the benefit of a playboy model to help me learn what my child's doctor should have been helping me learn. I learned about the gluten-free, casein-free diet. Within five days of removing dairy she spoke. Within 2 months she had over 100 word vocabulary.

Fast forward 7 years. My daughter still has autism. But, she's 1000% better after the wonderful pediatrician gave her autism. She's in 2nd grade doing modified 2nd grade work. She cannot physically write well (thanks Dr. XXX but she can use a keyboard and writes wonderful creative stories about barnyard animals laughing and the colors of dinosaurs. Of course, that's in between her chelation to get out all the aluminum, lead, and mercury in her body. And, in between the
chronic illnesses and hospitalizations she has. I'll be more than happy to participate as a parent spokesperson for the lovely abilities of the AAP to contribute to the autism pandemic.

Debi Haney
 

I was at this presentation in San Diego. I went because it was entitled "M.I.N.D. Over Matter...Biomedical Approaches to Understanding and Treating Autism." I was sadly disappointed because there was not much, if any, mention of biomedical treatments. The presentation focused mostly on genetic testing. The doctor even questioned whether autism is an epidemic or just better awareness.

He talked alot about this research with monkeys, and he also talked about another research project with the monkeys where they removed the amygdalas of these monkeys to also produce autistic-like behaviors. He talked about having hundreds of monkeys at his disposal to do these studies on.

When it was time for Q&A, I was surprised that he called on me because I did make some funny faces to a lot of the comments he made, and I asked, "Do you have any plans to vaccinate these monkeys with the same vaccines that my son received with the same amounts of mercury, toxins, and live viruses to see if they get autism?" And I got the proverbial answer that they are choosing to focus more on genetics.....

Now that I've finally posted -- I've been a lurker for quite some time on this discussion group -- I should probably electronically introduce myself. I too have a sordid past whereby I ate healthy during my pregnancies, had natural childbirth, even turning down a Tylenol because I didn't want to contaminate my milk; I breastfed my children for 18 months, then made them organic baby food, always reading labels on anything I ate or gave to them, but I NEVER thought to read the ingredients of vaccines. When I questioned the doctors about vaccines, I was told my children can't go to school unless they receive them on schedule. And when I said I didn't want the chicken pox vaccine because it wasn't mandatory, the doctor came back with a picture of a quadriplegic girl in a wheelchair that the doctor said had to have her arms and legs amputated, because when she got chicken pox they became infected.

I have three boys. My oldest has some issues, but he dodged the autism bullet. My middle son has ASD. My youngest was born with clubfeet, and was on his way to getting autism when I finally got smart and stopped vaccinating him, put him on the diet with my middle son, and we got him back. He is now just fine.
 

Jackie, I went to the CDC website & read about each disease, the rates of infection, and where they happen. For example, my town in the Southeast had few reports of pertussis. I also considered the context of contraction. I was a stay-at-homer who didn't take her out much because when it came down to it I decided that no immunizations were best. She has two older sisters who were in school. 

There is evidence the pertussis vaccine is ineffective. In fact, the CDC itself admits their vaccine may only be 60% effective. IT may be less than that when you read through the link below and see that a lot of kids with pertussis don't show a positive culture but still have it; if they don't have a positive culture, unless it's linked to someone who does have a positive culture, it won't be reported as pertussis, which further skews the true statistics.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pertussis/chapter1.pdf

I personally have struggled with polio. It's my understanding some of the Amish developed polio from immigrants overseas who were given the oral polio and came here and spread it because the oral is a live virus. In my kids' school we have a high level of immigrants, including places like Liberia. I have thought about these kids getting the oral one day, hopping an overnight flight and being in our school,using the same toilets as my girls the next. That said, I felt like
after prayer and considering the very low risk of that actually happening compared to the risk of complications because of our history, it just wasn't worth it. My grandfather died of a mysterious brain tumor in his early 60's, the most deadly form. My grandmother has also had lymphoma. I have wondered if my family is susceptible to SV-40 and there have been some cases of newly-infected SV-40 children.

As far as HIB, according to CDC again, the risk of complicated Hib infection is 1.3/100,000 in USA.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/haeminfluserob_t.htm

One thing you can do is ask yourself, how many people in your area do you know who have had Hib? It's a bacteria that can be a carrier state in many of us. It's typically a secondary infection. There's also a question of how effective the vaccine truly is. It sounds as if it's not as effective as FDA would have us think:

http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HIB.htm
In 1995, out of 74 Hib disease cases where age and vaccination status were known, 41 or 55 percent had received at least one Hib shot; 22 were appropriately vaccinated for their age; and 18 had completed the primary series. Personally, I don't consider an 18% failure rate to be good enough to justify, but that's my personal feeling. You may feel differently and that's all right. What I would suggest to you is that you research all you can and pray about it, that's what I did.

BTW, my youngest, 4 1/2 is completely unimmunized. She did get pertussis at age 3. It was about like bronchitis, NOTHING like the horror stories we hear. It lasted about 6 wks, she was fine unless she got worked up on the playground, then she'd have a spasm. I did hate seeing her have the episodes, but it was no where *near* thinking she was going to die, cough up blood, etc. The hardest part about it was *getting* them to test her. They still wouldn't dx by older daughter with identical symptoms because she'd been immunized, they refused to concede it might be possible, even when I presented them (school nurse
& county health nurse) with CDC data. I hope this helps. I know it isn't easy, but you're doing far better than the majority of parents. You're taking the issue seriously and trying to do what's best for your child.

Debi
 

Had I only known...A letter to The View

More than anything, what upsets me today about The View is that it's supposed to be a show that represents different VIEWS! Silly me...I thought they could actually discuss the different VIEWS about what causes autism. Like others here, I'm quite familiar with the VIEW from inside the world of Autism, and I really don't need to VIEW any more. Furthermore, in my letter to Elisabeth, I tried to emphasize that they need to treat parents as intelligent, thoughtful people who, when presented with the facts about Autism, will best be able to make a decision appropriate for their child. Censoring and/or editing uncomfortable and controversial material is inexcusable when it comes to the embetterment of our children.

What I would have given to at least had someone just present both VIEWS of the vaccine story prior to my daughter's birth so I could have made up my own mind...how different my life and my daughter's may have been.

Julie
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Dear Elisabeth,

Thank you for being a part of an important show today that highlighted the prevelance of Autism in our society; what impact it has on families lives; and supportive therapies that have been helpful in recovering some children. I must admit, however, that I was extremely disappointed that The View did not explore the other highly successful interventions being used to address the medical problems Autistic children have. Often, as is being proven in thousands of children everyday, treating said issues vastly improves and sometimes reverses the disorder in its entirety.

I am fortunate enough to have a child in which said therapies did in fact reverse such problems. Today, two years after beginning treatements, my little girl is a mainstreamed kindergartener. She will live a productive, independent life as a result. Two years ago I did not know if she would ever speak in full sentences and have to live with us for the rest of her life. The most successful treatment used in recovering my daughter from "Autism" was chelation therapy, a process used to treat heavy metal toxicity. Indeed, testing confirmed she was mercury toxic.

Not surprisingly, this was a shocking discovery to her father and I.

As a result of her testing and subsequent recovery, it is my deepest belief that my daughter was poisoned by mercury in her vaccines. I fear that because of the source of her exposure to mercury, shows such as The View and others are afraid to open the important discussion as to whether or not vaccines, and/or their components, do cause "Autism" as I and thousands of others believe. Frankly, our children's health is too important a discussion to censor and/or edit because it is controversial or uncomfortable. I implore you to investigate and present both sides of this story.

It is excrutiatingly painful to have watched my beautiful daughter slip into the world of "Autism" and have suffered for 3 years before knowing how to properly intervene on her behalf. There is so very, very much I wish I would have known, that I could have known, if a show like yours would have just presented the facts. Had I known there was mercury in vaccines and that each and every symptom of what was wrong with her was a LISTED side effect of the very substance that was injected into her at her most vulnerable time of development, she might not have suffered for so long. Logic would have dictated that at a minimum it was worth investigating. Had I known that 10-15% of people don't excrete mercury effectively, I could have asked for screening to see if she was one of them before injecting her with it. Had I known giving Tylenol to someone who is exposed to mercury prohibits their excretion if it, I wouldn't have given it to her before and after her shots. Had I known antibiotics have the same effect, I would have rescheduled her vaccinations while she was on them.

Had I known the AAP had said prior to her conception that mercury was toxic in all of its forms and needed to be avoided at all costs, except through a vaccine where they claimed it was a "hypothetical" risk, I would have erred on the side of caution and asked for ones without it. Too bad I missed their news conference making such a statement at 4:15 on a Friday in July two years earlier.

Had I known said mercury had never been tested for safety, and that the FDA and CDC had forgotten to tabulate the cummulative amount a child could be exposed to via vaccine, I would have thrown my body in front of traffic before laying down my child to be injected with it.

Had I known they did a study in 2000 that showed a statistically significant correlation between mercury exposure and Autism, ADHD, and speech delay, I could have demanded an alternative.

Had I known someone put a secret "Eli Lilly" Rider into the Homeland Security Act protecting the maker of said mercury preservative from all liabilty (said Rider was removed before passage), I would have questioned what in God's name could deserve such protection and done some homework.

Had I known, Elisabeth. Had I known.

But I didn't know.

Why?

Because show's like yours didn't tell me.

Because no one wanted to talk about it then, and no one wants to talk about it now.

Which is really too bad.

I'm not asking you to use your show to say vaccines cause Autism. I'm asking you to open the discussion and present the facts that indeed they very well might.

I'm asking you to trust parents to be smart enough to make an informed decision.

That's all I wish I would have had...an informed decision...the facts.

But I didn't. And as a result, my daughter suffered severely.

Had I only known...

Sincerely,
Julie Obradovic

Julie, Wonderful letter indeed, I think your letter hits the hearts of every parent whose child's life was harmed by the injection the insidious neuro-toxin, mercury...

Had we only known...

EVERYTHING would have been DIFFERENT...

Soldier On...

Leslie,
Mother to beautiful Lanier, almost 9 and has yet to utter her first word... Had I only known...

I do billing for an MD and can't tell you how many times a baby/young child comes in for well check and the next in a series of something like 16 vaccinations they have to have these days and then in one - two days the same child is back with cold, flu, fever, abdominal pain, ear infections.... etc...  you'd think SOMEONE would see a connection! 

Which state are you in? Check out the bookmarks on the list website and you should be able to find the specifics for your state laws. You were lied to about getting the vaxes before leaving the hospital. The schedule is a suggestion, there is no law that I've heard of that says anyone has to vax at birth if they are going to vax. If you didn't sign a consent form, they legally can't vax the baby. Same with the doc. If that was my doc, he never would've gotten my child out of the room without me. And if he vaxed my  child without a consent form, he would be up on charges. That is illegal. Period.

It's harder to selectively vax than to just not vax. I know someone who did do that because she wanted to avoid the ones that are cultured on aborted fetal tissue. she's catholic, and wanted nothing to do with anything that included abortion) But it was harder for  her to do that than it would have been to just say no vaxes for religious reasons. Are you still in California? they allow a  philosophical objection  exemption. You fill out the form and keep a copy for yourself, and one in your Childs medical file. Religious exemptions are easier, and when people find out the stuff in vaxes, it's not that hard to come up with a way to justify not vaxing with religious reasons. Not that you have to explain those reasons other than "religious". It's unconstitutional for anyone to ask you to explain those beliefs. Knowing your rights is what is key. You have to know the specifics of the laws in your state.  People who are supposed to know what the laws are will bully you, and out and out lie to you about what you "have to" do. I had a doc try to scare me into the Hep B and chicken pox vax along with a couple of others when my daughter was 6 weeks old. He lied to me, and I called him on it. I asked him if he had even bothered to read  the insert on the vax package. He got quite irritated at me and informed me that he HAD been to medical school. But he never answered my question. I told him it boiled down to one thing. If she had a reaction, I would be the one having to deal with it. If she got autism, or other illnesses because of vaccine damage, it would be me taking care of her, not him, and I wasn't willing to take that risk with her health. That the vaxes he was pushing were far more scary to me than the diseases they supposedly protect people from. And that the chances of a reaction were more likely than the child getting the disease. Then he started talking about "crack pot websites" I asked him what he thought of the CDC and World Health Organization websites. very provax) That that was where I got my numbers for the numbers of people who get and die from the diseases he was wanting to vax my child against. I compared that to the numbers on the vax inserts and stuff I found at the Vaers website. But if you look it up and do the research, you will probably figure out that almost all the vaxes are scarier than the diseases. I have also decided to avoid docs for all of us unless we are sick. We don't do well baby/child visits, less hassle that way.

Yes, I have heard about the mercury and the possible cause of autism. Let me tell you what else I have experienced.   My first nephew was born prematurely.  He had surgery to "close up" his esophagus.  After 6 months of his building strength and recovering from surgery, the pediatrician gave him his DPT shot.  He died the next day, doctors diagnosing it as "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome". Years later, another of my sister-in-laws had a child.  The baby was 3months old when he, too, died of guess what?  "Sudden Infant Death".  The DPT shot was given the day before. The sad thing is, it wasn't until much later that we all realized that the vaccine and the deaths were related.

Before that sad discovery, I had a second child that I had just brought to have his second round of DPT.  Hours later he had a horrible reaction.  The pediatrician said to never give him the "P" (pertussin) part again.  He is now almost 18 years old.  He has had spinal meningitis, severe allergies, ADHD, probable bipolar disorder, and chronic pain and disability with a knee condition called osteonecrosis.   I put some of the blame on that shot and the side effects of the shot.  Many medical professionals may deny this. One other example - I am a psychotherapist and work with mainly adults, but the adolescents that I have seen, that come in for oppositional defiance, severe ADHD, learning disabilities, etc. have all reported by one of their parents as having a severe reaction to a vaccination as a young child. (I ask).  I am also aware of a local physician in town, renown for her studies in biochemical reactions with vaccinations, who indicates a direct correlation between autistic children and immunizations. So to answer your question, that is what I have experienced with immunizations.  I am SCARED to death of all of them. And I think, rightly so.
BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!! 

Hi all
    Actually, many people in medicine see a connection between vaccinations and fevers, etc.  Problem is, they see these reactions as "normal" side effects of poking needles full of (fill in the blank with your favorite 4-letters) into children.  Some will tell you it's a sign the vaccine is "doing its job" and "building the body's resistance"     Of course, the preponderance of allergies, asthma, etc in these "well cared for" children has nothing at all to do with vaccines.  No way.   Yeah, right

You would think so.  Friends of ours had a baby who began having seizures after his first vaccs.  He nearly died and had to be on so many meds that he had to stay in hospital for weeks.  The seizures continued for many weeks. They tested him for everything and the diagnosis was finally "unknown etiology" or some such phrase.   And this was a major teaching hospital in Texas, not a tiny, backward place.

The baby is now over a year and doing ok but his parents and the doctors are still sure that there was no explanation whatsoever for the seizures, but I'd bet quite a lot of money that they were from the vaccs.  Not everyone can think outside the box, no matter how much you attempt to get them to try.  It's terribly frustrating and sad to see this type of thing.

Had I read such a publication, had such articles been available to me, I would not now be severely disabled from the work related vaccine I received. I had the hepatitis B vaccine to ensure my income earning potential and health was maintained and achieved. Instead I live in abject poverty, because of a crippling autoimmune polyarthritis which occured within 14 days of vaccination with Engerix B.

My once promising nursing career and independence in tatters. Sadly, for some of us health professionals, it's not until the spectre of vaccine injury impacts directly, that our perspectives on vaccination are modified. Hence the groups of vaccine injured health professionals and their class-action law suits.

I am also in email contact with 41 other vaccine injured health professionals.  Many of these colleagues  (nurses, doctors, physios, OT's, social workers, dietitions, MPH's etc) were senior in their careers, one a former vaccine researcher who worked in his sister's lab. Each severely disabled victim is similarly injured by hepatitis B vaccine.

Never, never, EVER again.

We believe that our daughter was "injured" by the HepB vaccinations she received in the hospital and at her 2 month check-up.  And she died a couple weeks later.  The coroner's report listed nothing "extraordinary" and named the cause of death as SIDS.  But we would like to find out what we can do to investigate whether it really as the HepB vaccinations. 

Man ya know I didn’t realize it until I read your post I guess I still am grieving...sort of....again!   I know I went through this when xxxxxx first started seizing, and I guess its back again now with this physical debilities.     I guess I just need to let the grief out and get through this process again. xxxxxx will never be the wonderful little normal guy he was before his immunizations, or even the guy he was prior to surgery!  I guess I need to accept that, and adjust to this "new kid"...huh.    I still think that years and years ago different things should have been done, and maybe this total paralysis on his side could have been avoided!  I mean...xxxxx was perfect and normal at 5...now look at what medical science has done to him.... sorry didn’t mean to ramble.    It was those damn immunizations that did this to him!!!

When the doc's (including Freeman, which is why I hate him so) said to go ahead with the vaccines, despite her seizure disorder, I did. The reaction to Hep B was immediate. Then, finally, my eyes were opened (although it took 2 doses of the poison). At that point, I went  back and reviewed all her medical records and it all fit...the original encephalitis was 28 days after her DPT and Hib B boosters. Too much time to even consider suing, but its there all the same. now I tell everyone I can. some refuse to listen and I just hold my breath when its people close to me, but thankfully, some DO listen, and more people are starting to take notice when I tell them that Hannah's condition is a result of vaccines. Barb and I gave the cab driver in Florida an earful when we learned he was a new grandpa. While we were still in the van he called up his daughter for us to talk to her...saved that one at least!

I know what you mean  when you said they don't know what caused the problems, but they are very certain at what didn't!  Our pediatrician adamantly denies that the vaccine had anything to do with xxxxxxx's events.  Of course, he is the one who gave the order for the vaccine and signed off on it.  I do believe that he is more worried about the repercussion of admitting that the vaccine hurt my child than he is worried about what will happen if we give more.  I have refused all vaccines for xxxxxx at this point. He will receive no more.  If they gave a drug and a reaction occurred within 4 hours, they would admit that it ws a reaction to the drug and they would stop that drug or change it (like for seizures).  But a vaccine is injected into the the body and they can't take it back. I guess that is the difference.  It is very sad though.

Wait just a minute, the DOH have failed to say that whilst (they say)  Menengitis C. decreases, Menengitis B has increased! They have forgotten to say THAT VACCINE VIRUSES MUTATE-it is proven science- hence C can become B etc; they have not admitted the thousands of reported reactions to this "New Wonder vaccine!!!!" In my neighbourhood we've had two teenagers(probably a lot more) die of Men B post Men C vaccination, one crippled with Rh. Arthritis............ What else do they hide?

Here's another story questioning the MMR vaccine! Just recently whilst visiting our local pool, I striked a conversation with a mother of a 13 month old boy. She initiated the topic re: Vaccination by describing her son¹s reaction to the MMR vaccine! After having been administered the MMR vaccine, he had a high temperature, after which they gave him antiobiotics. This in turn, actually lead him to contracting measles itself and also a fungal (yeast) infection resulted in his genitals as well as a heat rash. The mother now is giving Zinc cream (good ol¹ petrochemical based product) for the heat rash. Having been through this episode, the mother said she seemed to question the MMR vaccine, but nevertheless, is still proceeding with the vaccination schedule for her boy.  Now this mother has also worked with children with disabilties (owing to vaccinations), yet I could feel she was denying her instincts about the effects the MMR had on her little boy, yet she is still going ahead with vaccinating him. I had to bite my tongue.I gave her my speel, about how vaccination actually hampers the immune system and has unknown side effects (without getting on my soapbox about it!) and suggested she contacts the AVN to get more info. Earlier on in the conversation she asked me if we have vaccinated our son (18 months old) and we swiftly replied 'No' to which she replied, 'Oh, are you getting him homeopathically treated then??, to which we replied yes. So there you go - she is aware of alternative modalities!! What can you do??

I live in Tennessess, and just received notification that my sixth grade son has to have the Hep B vaccine. Since I have researched this vaccine, I am afraid for him.  After having taken the vaccine myself, I developed a severe case of rhuematoid arthritis. For the past three years I have been living with the consequences of this vaccine.  It is most important that I receive the necessary papers to prevent possible damage to my son.

I get asked all the time if my kids vaccs are up to date.....I just say yes.....cause to me, they're as up to date as they're ever going to get :).  Course, my kids are a little older, so it's easier, because we don't have all the stupid newborn ones.

BTW, it was a vaccine that caused my son's diabetes.....and he's now under homeopathic care.....receiving a remedy to try to undo the damage from his DPT

It's so sad that your sister had to learn from her experience, and not yours.  I didn't realize the enormity of the dangers of vaccines until after my older son had received all his toddler shots and begun showing chronic problems that could be due to them.  My younger son is completely unvaccinated and will stay that way. I certainly feel like I could preach it from the mountains but I know people just aren't receptive.  I try anyway.  If they hear it from enough people they'll start to give it some thought.

I am, Pierre Petit, the father of Marvin R. Petit DOB 2/17/2000. On 4/2/2000, he started having shortness of breath. He was rushed to the nearest hospital, then to a specialized one on children. There, Marvin entered in a coma which he never recovered from. He was pronounced dead on
5/3/2000.  My wife is being accused of shaking him to death. The mater is being debated in family court over the custody of our one year old son, Samuel, who were taken away from us at only two weeks old.

A family friend alerted me about the possibility that the vaccines could have been the cause. I went on check on a Hep B shot Marvin received 9 days earlier, on 3/24/2000, before started having shortness of breath. When I called the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, I learned that it was a hot lot (ENG3204A2). 9 people had already reported adverse reaction to it.  We need your help badly. On 3/18/2002, if I cannot come up with $20,000, for hiring Lawyers and Medical experts to get my wife out of this tragedy, we will lose our son and she can probably face criminal charges for a crime she did not comit.
Here the Story:  Before vaccination he smiles, plays. The warning was only fever.
He was administered Hep. B (ENG3204A2)
He was vaccinated on 2/17/2000 and 3/24/2000.
The very first day after the vaccination (3/24/2000) he gave a high pitched scream which was out of the ordinary, yeast infection on 3/30/2000, and shortness of breath on 4/2/2000.  The change was the high pitched cream (3/24/2000), and shortness of breath (4/2/2000), no chances of recovery. Tremendous emotional, psychological, and financial changes.
E-mail@: Pipetit@aol.com, Daytime Phone # (954) 760-9878
Thank you.

How very sad. I mean imagine what a nightmare it must be to lose a kid to a vaccine reaction and then be charged with murder, and lose your other kid to the state who is pumping them up with vaccines too). We all know how common denial of reactions occur. Yes, I know some people do abuse their kids. but some also die after vaccines like this boy might have. His health/behavior patterns after the shot echo the stories other parents have told, though  of course not all of those kids died. I can't help them financially, but I did send words of support. Sara in Ohio ps. it is things like this that also make me question vaccination. Having faced the denial by the medical community over my own hepB vaccine injury I have little doubt the same would occur should my child experience the same.

had a phone call today from someone who has a relation who's 16 year old son has developed paralysis since the meningitis vaccine. he has been in hospital ,they do not know why he is paralyzed believe he is being discharged soon. The family are frantic. Does anyone know of similar incidences. they are not my patients, only rang me because of involvement with an informed parent group.i told them about this list so if anyone has info they may pick up on it.i also told them about Jabs and Van uk and gave them the adress of the Informed Parent in UK. Yesterday the health authority started advertising Men.c. for the 18 year olds, and of course the babies too.

My daughter got an MMR shot 4 years ago and developed G.I. problems, vision problems, spinal problems.  At first she was diagnosed with celiac disease, but a biopsy came back negative.  Her symptoms sound more like IBD than celiac....we are having her seen for a reevaluation next month.  The strange thing is, for awhile she began to regress(autism did cross my mind at that point) but then seemed to level off and make a comeback.  But my husband and I both agree she is not the same child as she was prior to the shot. 

My parents have some friends who have just had a grandchild of theirs become unresponsive while at the babysitters. The child was taking a nap and did not respond to in attempts to be woken up. The child is living but now has brain damage.  They removed a cup of blood from his little brain. The babysitter and parents are under investigation for shakin baby syndrome, but I found it interesting that he had some vaccines the day before. Could the vaccines have had an impact?  I believe so.  Does anyone know of any other stories or information that I can pass along. The doctor has already counted out that the vaccines could of done anything. I personally disagree with him. Again, does anyone know where I can get some more information to help this family.

my son was and is still selectively mute.  Now, due to the MMR vaccine at age 12, he is autistic, also. 

All I can share is that xxxxxx was normal (I KNOW HE WAS-BEEN TOLD DIFFERENT) up to 14 months and after his MMR-he started seizing non stop and lost everything............but I could carry him out to the sandbox and watch him play in the sand.  He would spend hours their and I would dream of better days.  But for me-they have arrived.  I still haven't gotten exasperated with his behavior (which I should)  I turn away and smile and my heart fills with joy and my eyes with tears.

My son was developed arthritis in his left knee 10 days after his MMR. It was me that informed the pediatrician that it was from the vaccine, even though it is written as a side effect in the MIMS. Since then I have mentioned it to several of my friends and 2 of them said there children also couldn’t walk for a few days, a couple of weeks after their vaccination. I urged them to report the incidence yet 3 years later they still haven't. A patient of mine (I am a herbalist), brought her daughter in with chronic ear infections. They started after her MMR. The mother had no idea that the could have been vaccine induced. My cousin rang the other day to say she couldn't come for dinner because her daughter had received her shots and was crying hysterically (her baby very rarely cries). I told her this was a reaction to the vaccination and she should report it - she was unaware that she should do this. Unreported reactions are not the only thing we are concerned about - sometimes people don't recognize their children are having a reaction to the vaccines at all.

It is becoming more and more obvious that my symptoms are very similar to those of MS.  From testing I have been diagnosed with the following plus more.  I have partially paralyzed cilliary muscles in my eyes causing focus problems.  My nerve response is abnormal.  I have pain in almost every partof my body including my stomach muscles.  I have a particularly great amount of pain in my legs and feet.  Of course my HMO is refusing to approve the treatment that Dr Campbell prescribed.  I have filed a complaint with the Insurance Commision for that reason.  Since the symptoms started within a day of my getting the Hepatax B vaccine in the Navy I have taken the matter up with the VA but the VA is next to useless in helping diagnose veteran's illness because they do not want to pay disability payments.

I met my friend on the street and saw her 14 month old baby.. It was a pity to look at her. she was so frail. She is only 10 pounds! looks like a skeleton. She had a feeder that went from a machine into her nose, and I know it goes all the way into her tummy. Her mother nurses the baby, but she seems not absorbing the vitamins, and she doesn't gain weight. The mother told me the baby was fine, until age 4 months. I asked the mother, did she get vaccinated in the age 4 months? yes she was... in birth, she got Hep B shot. In 2 month well check up, she got 4 shots: Hep B, HIB, DTP, IPV then in age 4 months other 4 shots: Hep B, HIB, DTP, IPV. she got a fever and high pitched crying. Afterwards she stopped gaining weight become sooooo weak.. it sucks!! the mother still didn't realize it was from it, so she brought the baby in age 8 months for the other series of the scheduled shots. I told the mother to keep in touch with me, and I will refer her to the homeopath. and in heaven's sake, STOP vaccinating!!! and she needs to get strong, make her immune system strong, because this weak baby can't even handle a simple cold and she is in a big risk! anyway, what shall she do? can a homeopath help? what about chelating? who can help her? can a homeopath help about everything, or she needs additional professional? thanks!!

I have to assume from the post that the doctor was advised of the reactions after the 2nd set of vaccinations.  The baby had health issues then.  They came in for the 3rd set of vaccinations, if I remember right, this is when the baby failed to gain weight.  The baby wasn't healthy; therefore the vaccinations were given to an unhealthy baby.  If so, they were given against the manufacturers recommendation of only giving to health.  This means they were given off label and if so the doctor is liable for his actions.  CERTAINLY I agree. Just didn't know the term 'off label'. I agree they weren't healthy but now the CDC says don't worry be happy - vaccinate even when sick. I got this from something Dr. Stephen Tobin posted who is a vet homeopath in onnecticut.  If a vaccine is given to an unhealthy it is given off label which means the doctor/vet is liable because they didn't follow manufacturer guidelines- this was in connection with giving rabies vaccines to an unhealthy dog.  But to me what difference does it make, unhealthy dog, unhealthy baby!!!!!

Look into chelation as soon as possible, there are many avenues open to you.  I have used homeopathy on my son who was diagnosed as ADD (which is bull#$%^#%), he was mercury toxic. I find it interesting that your nephew developed these problems at eighteen months of age. That's around the age when most children have their childhood vaccination boosters. That was the case with my daughter, after which she developed acute cerebellar ataxia syndrome; which is, by the way, a description of symptoms, not a diagnosis. My daughter's pediatrician, all those years ago, put forth the same 'diagnosis' after observing her sudden onset of balance, gait, and related symptoms. It wound up that the problem, the core issue, was that she had developed encephalitis after the administration of a live virus measles vaccination, and the ataxia was one of the after effects of that. In extreme cases, the immune system is severely damaged by mercury. Yeast is a given constant in our digestive systems. Under normal circumstances, the body, namely our immune system, can keep the levels in check. When the immune system doesn’t function properly the yeast takes over. Yeast overgrowth is a common occurrence in Autistic children.

I sincerely wish you the very best on avoiding the vaccine and all problems associated with it. I had no idea prior to my trouble with the vaccine that vaccines had any problems associated with them! But now after extensive research on them I can see vaccines harmed my oldest child...he had/has ADHD, and his son also has the same problem no doubt due to vaccines as well. My second son is allergic to zinc, also a vaccine problem, and my youngest daughter had a bad reaction to her first DPT shot, and thankfully her pediatrician listened to me and didn't give her the following doses of the Pertussis vaccine, but if I were doing it over again now knowing what I now know, none of my kids would have been vaccinated!!!!

I can't say as I blame you one little bit that you have avoided the hepB vaccination for your kids. And I think that is an admirable way to do it with home births. Not so sure others would agree, but since my bad reaction to the hep B vaccine, my views have taken a total turn around from what they were prior to the vaccine. I had the vaccine in 92 when I was a CNA. It was 'highly recommended', and I had never heard of vaccines being problematic, so had it. Immediately after the third dose, when I tried to take a hot shower (which I had done for years when it began to get cold, with never a strange reaction such as the one I had this time) I began to feel immediately as though I was going to pass out. Things went black and began to sparkle and I had to quick exit the shower. I sat on the closed toilet till I could see again, then got back in the shower but cooled it down this time and took a shower with no further problems. I began to have bowel and bladder problems as well, but totally ignored them, and passed them off as normal. 4 years later in 96, I began to have dizzy spells frequently which finally culminated with my being diagnosed in 97 with MS at the grand ol' age of 44!  It didn't finally occur to me that the hep B vaccine was involved until 98 when we finally got internet access, and on a fluke I happened to look up MS in search and the first thing that came up was the hep B vaccine. Then suddenly everything made perfect sense and finally fell into place. See, I was one who NEVER got sick. I got the flu maybe once in 7 or 8 years, and it laid me up for a week, then I was back to my normal self. I never even got a cold, and I worked in a nursing home, none the less! But it seems I caught a virus and entered perimenopause at the same time and that finally bought about the MS, which had been there since I had the vaccine...thus the initial strange symptoms where hot water almost caused me to pass out! It took me quite a while to put all this together because I was in such shock after I was diagnosed with MS. Plus the realization that the vaccine had brought all this about made my acceptance even harder.  But that is my story in a nutshell. Hope it helps. If there is anything more I can tell you, let me know. My daughter is also pregnant and looking at a breech birth. Of course she avoids the vaccine as well because of what it did to her mother, and well she should! Good luck!!!!!

Don't mean to sound like a wacky "anti-vaccine" person-- but experience has really pushed me there.  Many ofour kids have a compromised immune system and other gut issues that make them less able to throw off the toxic effects of the meds.  We faced a similar situation to you when XXXXX entered a new Montessori school.  She was "required" (or at the time that'swhat I thought) to have the Hepatitis A vaccine.  I did do research but everyone told me it was fine.  I didn't want to make waves in a new school and, as I told my husband, I just didn't think I could "gothere" (in terms of not vaccinating my kids).  We did the shot and two weeks later, after only having two viral-related seizures ever, Anna began having almost constant complex partial seizures.  Was it the vaccine?  We'll probably never know, but I'll kick myself forever.  I'd hate to see you relating a similar story a few years down the road.

I had to be so strong as a young mom with a vaccine injured son.  While living in Foster City, California, I was very involved with their Mother's Club.  I was naive back then and brought up the subject of vaccines.  One mom in particular really slammed me for not continuing to vaccinate my son, in spite of the fact he'd had so many reactions.  After awhile, when I tried to join a few other playgroups, my reception into these groups was very lukewarm.  I just couldn't figure it out.  THEN it hit me like a ton of bricks, several years later.  I'll bet ANYTHING it had to do with the vaccination issues.

Some people just cave in to peer pressure.  I was just told by the mom my group helped out that someone she knew, who did not vaccinate, couldn't get her daughter into a playgroup unless she vaccinated.  So....guess what...she vaccinated her daughter...she was that desperate.

I try not to judge, really, I've always said healthcare issues are extremely personal, and that goes for vaccinating, as well.

But as more and more lawsuits are filed on behalf of parents and their vaccine injured children, the truth WILL come out.  This is like a slow volcano ready to erupt, it's only a matter of time, but I can foresee down the road where the vaccine issues just implode into the mainstream and when they do, look out!

 I know waaaaaayyy too many people who have children that do not function normally. When I asked one neighbor what happened to her 26 yr old daughter to make her soo different from her twin sister, she replied that she didn't know for sure--it was after kindergarten shots, she was 5, was on a swing in the backyard with all the other neighbor kids & siblings, and she just fell off of the swing. The dr. said she must've had a seizure. No one even thought it could be related to shots. The daughter is now in her 30's. She is retarded. She will need help the rest of her life; she functions well, but is not able to live by herself. Another friend has a daughter that has been tested over & over & over, different diagnoses all around. The most often diag. is developmentally delayed. It all started when she was around 4 mo old, parents didn't really believe anything wrong until she was close to a year and couldn't even sit up. Seizures and meds all thru childhood--she is now 18 and will never be able to be on her own. Her younger sister is as perfect as can be. I worked in a daycare center where an infant died. It was the most horrible thing I have ever experienced. 4 mo old... shots one day, at day care the next day, and dead before lunch time...the person directly working with the babies had no real clue; after all investigations they said that it was a sudden onset of viral pneumonia....which was changed the next day to SIDS. Sick sick sick. I know of many others, including one of my best friends who's daughter recently reacted to varicella & hep B shots.....of course it also will never get reported. Why? i will never figure that one out. 

The reaction concept is amazing. You're right, there are waaaaaaayyyy too many people that just say "OK" to their doctor when he/she says that whatever problems they have now just can't be related to the shot they got yesterday, or 3 days ago or 5 days ago. Sad thing. Not only do they believe it--if they leave that dr's office with any doubts, it's usually self-doubts! And then of course it's never reported. I don't understand that either---why people don't report. Why don't they report a problem if they even suspect something doesn't seem quite right??? Why don't parents look out more for their kids? Are children born just to be handed over blindly to the mercy of what the system says we 'have to' do??

My children are fully vaxed.  If I knew then what I know now, I would not vaccinate my children.  I don't think the issue is whether a personis a Christian or not.  The issue is, if people assume vaccinations are the way to go because that's what they've always been told (like me), they need to know there is another way.  Some may call it being brainwashed, I call it being uninformed. 

 I am a registered nurse and cringe at the thoughts of the countless number of babies I vaccinated over the years because that was what I  was taught to do.  Now, I am no longer in the nursing field and have  learned there are other avenues of health care.  Focus on the Family is  an outstanding organization made up of people just like you and I.  Their way of thinking about vaccines is no different than mine was  this time last year.

I am a mom of three special needs seven year old boys.  My life is a living hell.  If I only knew... If I only knew....

It just doesn't make since to me to inject into a child's bloodstream chemical and toxins that are known to cause cancer.

I was watching one of those anti-tobacco commercials, where they put all the ingredients of a cigarette into a blender, one by one.  They announced formaldehyde, lead, arsenic, etc.  I thought, "Boy, they could make a commercial like that about vaccines."   Except it would be formaldehyde, mercury, anti-freeze (ethylene glycol), lye (aluminum hydroxide), etc.  AND this stuff is injected directly into the bloodstream, as opposed to inhaling the smoke from burning the mixture.   Add to this fact that we are injecting them into the bloodstream of babies and very young children.

My husband is a PhD chemist, and when I told him the ingredients, he needed no further persuasion to not vaccinate.  He said these are things that have "skull and crossbones" in his lab, and there is no way he would inject those things into our child on purpose!  Even if the vaccinations were effective in preventing the diseases they are supposed to prevent (which is arguable), he would rather take chances with the diseases.

Proponents say the poisons are in such small amounts that they are harmless. The thing is, they conduct tests on one vaccine at a time.  They have never done a study of all the childhood vaccines put together.  They don't take in to consideration what the CUMULATIVE effect is of all these small amounts of poison adding up over time.  This was, I believe, the mistake with thimerosal.  It is a matter of time before the other poisons become acknowledged as well.
 

It's not that you don't belong here - no, not at all.  We are glad you are here so you will have the opportunity to learn about vaccines.  But let me say this - whatever benefits gained by vaccines is far outweighed by the damage that the ingredients will do.  Saying that some reactions are treatable is a ridiculous chance to take with your child and I for one, am NOT going to take that chance with my child!  That's like saying it it's okay with you if your child gets hurt or gets cancer or whatever disease - because those things are treatable.  That doesn't make sense at all. 

I'm not sure which vaxs you believe to be worth the risk.... certainly not the chicken pox one I hope.  When was the last time you knew someone to die of chicken pox?  Is it worth it to risk a vaccine on a disease that is not life threatening and is easily treatable?  I think not.  Not the MMR - there is TONS of research showing this shot is a killer and maimer of children.  I wouldn't give that shot to my kid no matter what age! 

Yes, you are right that if you wait until one or two years of age, the reactions to the shots are less.  But please don't give the kid anything they don't need!!!  Have your doctor do the titers test to see if the child already has immunity - don't just give the shot because the doctors say to do it.  I will let my daughter have the tetanus shot someday because she will need that protection as we live in a rural area and share a farm with my brother - the chances that she will get hurt or scratched while out playing in the barn yard are pretty good. I stepped on a rusty nail when I was a kid and am glad I had a tetanus shot at the time.  I don't know what is in the tetanus shot but believe me I will find out Before I decide to give it to her.  But I won't give her all that other crap - the other vaccines are unnecessary in my opinion, and the opinions of most of the parents here.

I think maybe one reason you are getting such strong responses from people is that most of the other parents in this group have children damaged by these damn shots!!  Please read through the archived messages and find out the kinds of things these other families are going through. Why should we not try to stop you from poisoning your child - read what these other kids are going through and then tell us that the reactions are treatable and vaccines are beneficial.  Read the posts from a new member, Sue (whymythree) about how sick her children are and then tell us that you are still willing to risk your kids life.... there are plenty of horror stories about vaxs right here in this small group of people - read up, ask them about it, learn MORE before you decide!!  There are thousands of parents in this country right now wishing they had the opportunity to learn this info BEFORE their kids were damaged by the shots - they would give anything to be where you are know - loving and raising a normal, healthy child.  So don't think we are "jumping" on you for your opinions on this - we are just trying to get you to think it through a little more before your child is damaged as well.

Besides, just because there is no outward sign of vaccine damage does not mean there IS no damage.  I came to research vaccines because I have had FMS (fibromyalgia) for the last ten years. I didn't have it before I joined the Army and took all the damn shots they gave us!!  To my mind, there has to be a connection. The same goes for the high rates of allergies, asthma and ADHD in this country today. That is connected to vaccinations.  Now, asthma, allergies and ADHD are not as bad as austim and seizures like some children have after being vaccinated but that does not make them acceptable risks - far from it. You really can not believe that it is OK to give your kid asthma, ADHD, allergies AND the risk of austim and more serious complications all at the same time.  And who knows what other diseases you are increasing by using vaccinations.  Some would say the high rate of cancer in the world today is because of vaxs and I, for one, believe them.  Just because you can't SEE a bad reaction, it doesn't mean the child didn't have one.  Would you let your kid play with the mercury from a thermometer, suck on leaded paint chips  or drink the antifreeze from your car??  No, of course not.  Why let a doctor inject poisons into their little bodies then?

I may not be explaining this very good and if anyone wants to pick this up where I'm leaving off, please do.  My child is healthy and has not had any shots (except hepB at birth) so I can't talk first hand about the damage vaccines cause - but the other mothers here can so please listen to them.  We don't want to sit here a year from now and learn that your child is also damaged because of the shots - we want your child to be healthy and whole for his entire life.  Please don't take for granted your child's life and health - don't you see that others would give their right arm to be where you are now?  That is why some reactions you get are strong - not because we don't like you or anything like that.  It's about the kids after all.  I sobbed and sobbed when I read Sue's (whymythree) post about her kids and how badly they are doing - we don't want to read similar things from you about your kids, that's all.

Peace!
 

if the doctor says there is no thimerosal or any mercury derivative in a vaccine doesn't mean that it's true. learn the various names for mercury derivatives and then absolutely insist to see the vaccine insert and the package. another major factor is formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, and animal cells. you don't have to give reasons to your doc for not vaccinating. unless you live in wva or ms, you can use either philosophical or religious exemption, depending on the state's exemption laws. you do not need proof of vaccination until your kids enter school. if your ped doesn't like your choice of not vaccinating, find another ped. they are here to serve you, not the other way round.

I recently discussed counter-propaganda techniques with political scientist. He pointed out that when people have already been strongly ingrained with one side of the story, presenting the other side of the story aggressively is not only ineffective, but it can make them defensive and dig their heels in even deeper.  Rather, people are more likely to consider alternatives if the presentation contains BOTH sides of the story.  In other words, if you first validate where they stand so they don't feel attacked, then introduce issues they hadn't considered, they are more likely to listen.

Personally, I think this approach makes sense.  Even so, it is still a slow, uphill battle to educate people who believe they already know all the answers.   It isn't their fault--most of us believed in vaccines at one time too.  Dr. Mendelsohn said that it is no use trying to convince people that doctors are as trustworthy as used car salesmen.  People aren't willing to question their faith until they personally experience betrayal or injury. So, in as much as I think that commercial would be really cool, I am not sure how effective it actually would be.  People seem to need to be personally shaken into doubting vaccines.   If I had millions of dollars, I'd probably spend the money bribing some medical authorities to tell the
truth, as opposed to trying to convince the entrenched masses.   I dunno....

Just my 2 cents,

I have an interesting story from one mom that wanted to info on the ingredients and the incredible run around she got and finally verified what was in them. Scary. Also more and more Dr.s are refusing to give the vaccine inserts to parents who ask, Why is that I wonder? I think it's cause it was the inserts themselves that convinced me to not vaccinate.  It just doesn't make since to me to inject into a child's bloodstream chemical and toxins that are known to cause cancer. God knew that there would be these diseases on this earth and so he has given us herbs and natural ways, eating healthy and having a healthy lifestyle to overcome

Wendy, you're right, once the child is injured, it's impossible to go back. My son's autistic and I can't go back, wish I could. Would never vax again, ever ever. I was not educated before, I asked the dr if they were safe and he said yes and I trusted him. Little did I know! I did not have the internet back then, could not do my own research.

I am a home care physical therapist and recently saw a patient that had a grandson that died at 9 weeks of age.  I just had to ask if the child had recently had any shots.  So I did. The baby had some shots the day before and they attributed his death to SIDS.  Don't doctors see what happened. A+B=C in my opinion.  Are physicians covering things up?

My daughter came right out and told the boys pediatrician that there would be NO talk of ANY vaccines before her youngest is three years old, when he has  a developed immune system.  At least for now she has shut them up on their harping about them.

Her oldest is almost 6 now and fully vaccinated, and has severe allergies, had to have tonsils and adenoids out last December because of severe sleep apnea, and a short attention span.  His almost 2 year old brother is totally vaccine free and has had 1 cold in his life. Even when his big brother came down with chicken pox <yes he was even vaxxed for these last November, they had the little guy right up close and personal, including exposing him to  the blistered pox, and the little guy never ever even got them...but in all likelihood, he has developed an immunity to them, according to a specialist my friend knows.

I know this probably isn't a lot of help, but if you want to shut the doctors up, just tell them no talk of vax's before age 3, in that time, you will be able to arm yourself with enough information to confront the doctors with it to justify your beliefs.

Thank you for the information provided in your website.  My daughter is 11yrs old and had the first of her Hep b shots on the 22nd of Jan.  Otherwise perfectly well.  By the 4th feb, unwell but ok. By the end of that week severe stomach ache,  sore throat and headache.  It is now May and she has been diagnosed with post viral syndrome.  I cant believe what it has done to our lives.  She now has blurry vision, sensitive hearing, nausea, tummy ache, throat and headache, her knee joint and wrist joints hurt, she has disturbed sleep, she cries on and off all day.  She says she feels lost, scared, and awful inside, she wants someone to help her,  but there is not much anyone can do for her.  She has not been at school at all this year.  I downloaded lots of information including your notes on Hep B and will take them with me to her paed. on Friday.  .  I would appreciate it if you know of any children who have responded like this could you tell me the outcome for them.  Please tell me she will be well soon.  Any  other information would be very gratefully received.  After weeks and weeks of being on the internet I am coming to the realisation that her Hep B caused us to be in this position and that her illness which occurred around 2 weeks after the immunization was in fact a reaction to the immunization and not a virus at all.  Thanks again for your website, when I can I will read the whole site but for now I cant stay on the internet for very long as I am waiting  for my daughters dr to ring me.  XXXXX has had  blood tests at the beg. of her illness and some more taken last week.  Her Dr is interested in getting a cat scan or mri scan and to start her on physio.  I dont know what is the right thing to do anymore.  I have had to give up my job and I just want my poor daughter to have her life back, she is so miserable.   Regards

It is great to see a thinking parent who wants the cold, hard scientific facts when it comes to vaccinations.  My husband and I are both scientists, and we looked for hard evidence as well in reaching our decision.

My conclusion is that there aren't any--cold, hard scientific facts, I mean. There have been studies out the wazoo, sure, but none of them are scientific, either for or against vaccination.  If there is any hard fact that I can say with certainty, it is that the data and studies have been "doctored" (literally!).  The medical profession is not trained to do scientific research, and they know very little about it.  Most of their "studies" are what real scientists call "junk science" or pseudo-science.

How can so many educated people be wrong?  TRUST.  People trust what their teachers tell them, who in turn trust what they were taught, and so forth. When you are busy and you TRUST your authorities, there is no reason for them to read the actual studies and look at the actual data or study the product inserts, etc.  So all these experts keep on parroting what they TRUST is true information.  The thinking parent would be wise to not TRUST these experts, many of whom simply TRUST their authorities.  Ultimately up the chain, you find money speaking.

If you examine the economic context of the vaccine industry, you will find a corrupt network of institutions with no intellectual, professional, or moral integrity whatsoever.  Even if vaccines DO work, it would be akin to buying a blood transfusion from the Mafia.  The system (pharmaceutical industry, CDC, federal and state governments) has repeatedly betrayed public trust to the extent that no one should take their word for anything they say about vaccines.

I have written an essay about this lack of cold hard evidence on my website,
www.freedom2think.com/vaccinations/
 

Hi, It is very simple to claim a religious exemption , and the school can not ask any questions , Thats what we did , And we did'nt have any questions . It really makes me sick , Finding out that these vaccines contain aborted fetuses , monkey cells , and chicken embryos , No wonder why our kids are so sick. 

I have an 8 month old baby girl and was in EXACTLY the same position as you.  We did our first two rounds of vaccines (HIB and polio) and by the time it came time for the third in the series, I had read all this stuff about vaccines, was seeing first hand what vaccines were doing to one of my dogs and it just didn't feel right to continue vaxing.  So I didn't.  Stopping vaccination was the BEST decision I have ever made in my life - I only wish I had done it sooner and wish that I knew then what I know now.  Not a day goes by that I don't kick myself for giving 2 shots of HIB and polio.

If vaxing doesn't feel right to you (and it didn't feel right to me) then don't do it.  Once you give the vaccine you can't turn the clock back and undo things.  My doctor was completely unsupportive of my concerns about vaccines.  He's fairly holistic in his views but he completely pooh-poohed my questions. "Reactions are so rare.... vaccines are NOT linked to allergies.... it's all a bunch of hog wash... besides, don't you want your daughter to be protected against these terrible and deadly illnesses?"  I vax'd XXXXXX out of fear. That's what it came down to.  What I did not realize at the time was that in vaxing her I was 1) not guaranteeing her immunity against these "horrible illnesses"  2) that these illnesses are NOT all that common in the first place 3) I was putting my child at risk for chronic disease   4) mercury toxicity is VERY real and a serious threat to children under the age of 6 months   4) vaccines form a large part of a doctor's practice which puts him in a conflict of interest when presenting both sides of the story.  My daughter didn't spike a fever during her vaccines and other than getting a little cranky she "did fine" as well.  Now she's 8 months old, has never been ill a single day in her life but she's suffering from acne.  Why?  No idea.  Not a clue.  Allergy?  Perhaps.  Hypersensitivity due to the vaccines?  Perhaps. But now I'll never know because I gave those damn vaccines.  XXXXX is just going to start homeopathic care for the acne and I have not been able to trace the acne to a food allergy.  I will not take her to the doctor for the problem because the last thing I want to do is suppress the symptoms.  She's a happy child, very content and if she is "the one" who becomes autistic because of vaxing out of fear I could never forgive myself knowing what I know now. Once you understand the real dangers of vaccines, it's like opening up a door that can never be closed again.  Once you "see" the dangers you can't go back into naivety.  I only wish I had seen sooner. My best advice to you is this:  follow your gut.  I wish I had followed mine.

  My son (XXXXX,4) was vaxed until he was about 18 months old. He had some tremors on and off in the weeks following a battery of vaxes that he was given. The docs brushed it off as nothing, but I believe it was a reaction to the vaxes he received then. It was the only thing different that we had done. We stopped vaxing at that point. My daughter has not been vaccinated, and neither child will get anymore at this point if I have anything to say about it. SO, would someone care to point me in the right direction on how to do the exemption letter? Thanks so much,

I can say that I believe that tetanus vaccine is to blame for my son losing what little speech he did have after slipping into Autism very soon after his MMR, DTP, HIB at age 18 months.    He had been using single words (about 7) until age 3 1/2 when he fell and cut his head...he was given a Tetanus shot at the Emergency Room. (which was not necessary...at this age he had already had 4 doses of Tetanus in his DTP's and DTaP, and Tetanus is good for 7 years???)   My son spent the next 6 months wandering around the house making repetitive howling sounds...CONSTANTLY!...he has not spoken a word since...he is now 11.   Your doc may have been aware of the danger in Tetanus...I wish I had known!!!

the below article is good, so I thought I'd share the URL.  It's so disturbing to me, because my son is an insulin dependant diabetic.  When Dr Clausen first came out with his proof, I contacted one of the leading vaccine lawyers.....they said that my case wouldn't work because the vaccine law says that you have three years from the date of injury to file and it was 3 1/2 years.  I said, yes, but six months ago, Dr Clausen hadn't proven anything yet.

He said he understood, but that was the law and adios, basically.  I've kind of given up hope of compensation, but it makes me so sad.  My son costs about three hundred and fifty dollars a month, not including any complications that require the hospital.  He now has something going on with his liver, that I believei s a complication from the diabetes.  What does he do when he leaves home and doesn't have our insurance, yet is still unable to get a job with someone who will provide group insurance?  Cause in CA, someone with a preexisting condition can only get insurance through group insurance.

I really would have liked to have a fund set up for him for things like that.  

XXXXX had a horrible reaction to his first DPT.  He screamed at the top of his lungs for 7 hours.  Then he got really quiet....was white, stiff, then he stopped breathing.  I shook him and he started breathing again, but was stiff for over 3 days.  If you lifted a limb, it just dropped to the table, if you tried to move his head, it just rolled to the side.  I took him to the dr right away and they did tell me they thought it was a reaction to the P vaccine.....and not to give that anymore.

You would have thought I would have learned after that....but, I still trusted the drs and continued to vaccinate him, minus the P.  He had his last shot when he was four.......he got diabetes when he was seven. :(

Anyway, I just felt like sharing his story this morning.  Reading this article brought it all forward in my mind.

Yes, my children's pediatrician said the same thing.  I did not want my children vaccinated at all, but I was not asked when they were vaccinated at birth at Yale-New Haven Hospital, and my pediatrician basically wouldn't listen and pressured my into letting him vaccinate saying that no daycares would take them (I am a single mom and worked full-time at the time) or school when they were school-age. 

My children are now 10 and 12.  My 10 year old is Autistic, Epileptic and Mentally Retarded.  Officially, her diagnosis is PDDNOS with Mental Retardation.  She has Mercury poisoning from Thimerosal, the preservative in many of the vaccines given her.  She also has chronic constipation to the point that she has Enkopresis.  My 12 year old is also PDDNOS, but he is of average intelligence.  He also has Mercury poisoning from Thimerosal, but not to the degree that my daughter does.  My son has many allergies, as does my daughter, and both had asthma as young children.  I have not worked in eight years in order to care for them.  We live on Social Security, food stamps, Medicaid for health insurance, and my mother has to pay for anything else we need.  At 44, that is hard to swallow, but for my kids I do it. I do get Self Determination money to support my daughter, and that is helpful.

So, my advice to you is to beware of anyone who tries to tell you that vaccines are safe.  There simply is no such thing at this point in time.  Perhaps in the future...

I had a tetanus booster in 1998, within 5 months I had terrible pain in all of my joints:  knuckles, wrists, fingers, elbows, knees, ankles, toes...  I finally went to the doctor who did some blood tests (which showed nothing).  His diagnosis, "arthritis."  Of course I never related it to the tetanus shot, until lately.  Arthritis...I was 32 years old then!  I still have pain in my joints now and then.  It has improved, for now.  But what would happen to me if I continued getting a booster every 10 years???  I'll never know because I won't be getting another if I can help it...

Also, when I was 3 1/2 I had a rubella vaccination.  My mom said I was up all night crying in pain from my arm.  A month later I still was complaining of pain in my arm, and my range of motion in that arm was decreased.  The doctor's diagnosis, "Arthralgia prob. due to 3 day measles vac."

I'm just sorry I didn't realize the connection before I had my children vaccinated...  My daughter is due for a tetanus booster in 2 years.  That's one she won't be getting.  If she gets a puncture wound or similar injury, it will be treated with homeopathy.

Perhaps it will help if you hear personally from someone with a reaction to the tetanus shot.  I now have a permanent case of tetanus.  I was already suffering the effects of 3 years of antibiotic use from my dermatologist when I received the vaccine.  My chronic fatigue syndrome turned into fibromyalgia and chronic myofascial pain syndrome:
http://www.sover.net/~devstar/relative.htm

This is my medical diagnosis.  What I really have is a chronic case of tetanus.  What I'm faced with is lifelong pain. 

you're right to be suspicious, XXXXXX! I wrote to my MP some months ago with the question why the BCG vaccine is still recommended in the UK since it appears to be the only western country and since a WHO field trial that was carried out in India decades ago, showed beyond the shadow of a doubt that the BCG is not only useless in preventing TB but actually caused it in a
high number of people... the DOH wrote some wishi washi usual bullcrap in reply:

"Studies of the effectiveness of the BCG vaccine have given varying results according to which part of the world they were undertaken. For example, while the study referred to in India showed no protection, and studies in Malawi have shown better protection against leprosy than
against TB, studies in the UK both in infants and adolescents have consistently shown significant, though not complete, protection. The reasons for these differences are not known. It is on this basis that the UK continues to recommend BCG vaccine."

looks like they haven't got a clue what they're talking about! I've just written back to him with a few questions and a copy of the article about the withdrawal of the BCG vax. i'm looking forward to his reply...
 

Not anti-vaccine in the way you imply at all.

Several of the vaccines we currently use have been huge successes.  Polio is the best example, has saved literally hundreds of thousands of people from recombining crippled from the disease.
 
That does not mean that vaccines do not need to be made safer.  Perhaps you do not recall when the live polio virus vaccine was used, which actually induced polio in thousands of children.  For 15 years the FDA refused to acknowledge the data, and it wasn't until Saulk testified before Congress in 1976 that the FDA took notice and the safer IVP vaccine was developed. Perhaps you are unaware that the DPT is the single most reported vaccine for severe adverse reactions, with the pertussis element associated with onset of seizure disorder, encephalitis which can lead to permanent neurological damage, and even death. This vaccine was so dangerous to use that in 1986, under the threat of hundreds of lawsuits, the makers of DPT banded together and threatened to cease production of it altogether until Congress passed the VAERS system, ostensibly to preserve the public health and set up arbitrary time limits for reportable reactions to occur for successful claim.  Since then over 1.5 billion dollars has been paid out for children damaged or killed, with an average award of about $300,000.   Pertussis remains the product most associated with severe adverse reactions, despite the adoption of the much safer a-cellular form in 1990.  Testing has failed to identify the exact protein fragment which is needed to confer immunity protection without holding the risk of damage.  Despite the danger associated with DPT and DTaP, this vaccine continues to be used as mandatory, with admission to the public schools and welfare and other low-income benefits tied directly to compliance.
 
Need I mention the ill-fated Rotashield?  Or perhaps you would like to discuss the issue surround Thimerosal?

I do not think that questioning the safety of vaccines equates to being anti-vaccine.  In all other industries we constantly question the safety of the products being sold.  Vaccines are rather unique in two ways however.  First they are mandatory, with the vast majority of parents forced into using them despite known risks and often without proper explanation of these.  Secondly, this is a medical treatment made not by weighing the risks of treatment versus the risks of the disease or injury present, but performed on healthy people without the disease (having a major illness is an immediate contra-indicator to receiving the jabs after all) and so it carries a far greater responsibility upon the practitioners and producers for safety than other medicines or procedures. Not anti-vaccine, just for safer ones.

By the way, care to disclose the dollar value of all the gratuities and other gifts you received last year from pharmaceutical companies and the value of your investments in the same?

I have an autoimmune disease and because of this, my daughter was told no vaccines for her youngest son, who is currently age 2, before the ages of 2 or 3, preferably age 3 when his immune system will be much more developed. Unfortunately her oldest was fully vaccinated before we knew of my diagnosis, the difference between the 2 boys is huge. The oldest has severe allergies, gets sick a lot, a few other problems, though not severe are suspicious.  The baby, never vaccinated has no allergies, never been sick, except with one cold which was very light in symptoms compared to the rest of the family, and even when his big brother got chicken pox last year <and yes, he was vaccinated for them they exposed the little one to him, let the boys wrestle with no shirts nothing...the little guy never got the chicken pox.  His immune system is much healthier than his big brothers. Since dealing with my autoimmune disease and becoming proactive in my treatment, I have learned one huge factor...NEVER trust someone because their first name is *doctor*.

There is a book that came out recently it is called Autoimmune Diseases and Their Environmental Triggers by Elaine Moore that brings up the vaccine connection throughout the book to several autoimmune diseases which are on the rise in children.  I have Graves Disease, something that usually is not seen in young people, let alone children.  The increase of this disease in children is skyrocketing. This past year we have see the mom's of three 13 year old daughters with GD, an 11 year, a 2 year old and a 10 month old baby.

Tread cautiously, give the little one's immune system to fully develop before injecting him with the crap that is in vaccines.  Give him a fighting chance.  One site that I have found to be wonderful is www.whale.to   click on the vaccine link and then ingrediants, then look at the side effects of the ingrediants on a human body <most based on adult bodies.  Maybe hubby will at least wait until this little one's immune system has developed before continuing to push this issue.  Maybe he will even change his mind.

BTW I cannot prove it but I know the vaccinations harmed my daughter. Certainly after the last DipTet she had huge pupils constantly. This is a sign of toxicity. My daughter is no longer ADHD and hell will freeze over before I allow another shot in her arm.

My 26 month old daughter was born at home and not vaccinated.    She is frequently exposed to other children from homeschooling playgroups that I take her to.  So far in her life, she's only had 3 slight colds and breakouts of eczema from allergies.  Not one instance of a ear infection, or any other disease.  She is very healthy, active and bright. You also asked about personal adverse reactions to vaccinations.  I was a physically active social worker when I got a flu shot in September 1993. After the flu shot, I started developing strange symptoms, which culminated in a complete collapse 6 months later.  I became completely disabled neurologically and physically, bedridden and having to be carried to go to the bathroom.  I was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and have since then found many other CFS patients who also got sick right after a vaccine. In fact, so many of his thousands of CFS patients got sick after being vaccinated that my CFS specialist (clinical professor at Duke University medical school) tells ALL his patients to not get the flu vaccine.  Trying to avoid 2 weeks of the flu is not worth risking a lifetime of disability. For many other stories of personal adverse reactions, www.thinktwice.com is a good place to start.  You start to get a sense of the real, untold story behind vaccinations.
 

This makes me remember when I was in the doctor's office once (allopathic) I saw the same nurse who had given xxxx his jabs. I was waiting out in the waiting room and saw a very bright, aware young boy, I can't remember his exact age now. What I do remember was his brightness and his awareness. I remember how BRIGHT and ALERT his eyes were, taking in EVERYTHING. He looked so intelligent, so alert.

I remember thinking, how come HE lived through the vaccine assault with no trauma, "life isn't fair," "why me," etc. Well, I soon saw that same nurse with a big lineup of syringes next to a medical chart. I said who are those for? She said, oh the little boy out in the waiting room who hasn't had any of his shots yet. I said, Is he getting all those in one day? She said, yes, he needs to catch up on his vaccines for school, he hasn't had them yet.
I remember just saying some prayers for that child. No wonder he looked so bright, so aware, he had had no brain stem trauma, YET. god only knows, what happened to that bright looking boy, and his poor mom.
 

We all struggle with these questions you posed.  Usually the "disease" our kids/grandkids get from vaccines are lifelong and disabling.  I am convinced in my own mind that most SIDS death are related to the mandatory vaccines that are given to infants.  I have a friend whose grandson died at 2 months, they called his death SIDS.  I asked her if he had been vaxed before his death, and she remembered seeing the calendar on the wall, and yes it was in the same week of his death.  Until more families whose child dies of "SIDS"  boldly speak out and are not afraid to assert that the vaccines must have contributed to their child's death, and demand more investigation into this cause of SIDS it will keep occurring.  To me the death of an infant is the worst consequence of vaccines.  My grandson is moderately to severely autistic, and we believe without a doubt the vaccines caused it.  He was developing normally until at 23 months he received his last round of shots which included the MMR and Chickenpox vaccines.  It is madness in my opinion.  Unfortunately they have added many more since my grandson had his last round.  He hasn't received the boosters the state required.  Our doctor has no problem writing a statement that XXXXX has received immunizations and won't receive more.  He believes (unofficially) that vaccines caused his autism. This doctor is our family doctor, because after my grandson became autistic the Ped that gave him the shots kicked him out of his practice.  He said he didn't know anything about autism and refused to be his doctor! 

 I have been researching disease, vaccines and their reactions for a little over three years now.  I have spoken with parents over the phone who thought there child was having a reaction, I have spoken to parents after there child went through a reaction, but I had yet to actually see a child have a reaction until last night. 
 
I was at a Home and Garden Party last night, and one of the women there had brought her newborn girl, my son is about 9 weeks old and so I would judge hers to have been about the same.  Her daughter seemed fussy all night long and finally got to a point where she had to leave the room because the child would not stop crying.  I watched her try to nurse and do everything  she could to calm her down, but nothing worked.  I waited for a few minutes before I went into the other room with her because I thought maybe the child was just cranky and mom was uncomfortable nursing in front of people.
 
The childs crying became very high pitched and really disturbed me.  My first thought was that the child needed to be adjusted, so I started talking to the mom about chiropractic, she said she knew about the benefits of chiropractic and was having her four year old adjusted but had not had the newborn because she was nervous about it.  The mom was holding the child close to her body and as we sat there I reassured her on having her newborn adjusted, as both mine were adjusted within days of their birth.
 
Then she turned the child around and I saw the most terrifying thing in my life.  The childs eyes were so wide open and she had this look of terror in her eyes.  Then I noticed her body, she was as stiff as a board her toes were pointed so straight it would have made a ballerina jealous, it is very hard for me to put into words what I saw, but you could just tell by the look in her eyes that her body was being wracked with pain.  I was in shock, literally, it took me a couple of minutes to gather my thoughts and I asked her when the childs last vaccination was.  The mother shook her head and said, "I knew it, it was five days ago."  That mother knew what was happening the moment I asked her that question.  She said she had been fussy ever since she had had her last vaccination, and that she seemed to be getting worse every day.  I asked her how many they gave her. Four, they gave that baby girl 4 vaccinations in one visit!  One of them was the new PCV-7.  The moms husband had just told her that morning not to vaccinate the kids anymore because he had heard a radio program and was not sure vaccinations were safe, he wanted to do some research first, but she went ahead and did it anyways.  By now she was in tears and saying she wished she had listened to her husband.
 
Fortunately my chiropractor was there and she adjusted the baby girl.  I had the mom call her midwife and tell her what was happening.  After the adjustment the baby just melted in the DC's arms, it was amazing.  She was still having periodic screaming fits but seemed to be getting some relief. 
 
I went home that night and fell into my husbands arms and cried my eyes out.  I had been holding it together while I was with the mom, in order to give her support, and could hold it in no longer.  The mom called me this morning and said the baby was doing alot better, she had had a rough night but seemed back to normal this morning.  Now we are going through the steps to get this reported, she is going to start getting informed on vaccinations and she is going to start getting the baby adjusted.  One of the things that really bothered me was that she had mentioned to the Dr. that her daughter seemed to be sick, and she did'nt know if it was ok to vaccinate when they were sick.  These Dr.'s are making me sick more and more every day!  For all the money they spent and the years of education it  becomes more clear that they have no common sense!, and that my friends is free.  It has cost me only in books and time to learn what I know and it scares me to think I know more than some of these &quot;Dr's.&quot; do about a subject so important, and parents are putting their childs lives in their hands!!  Last nights experience instills even deeper in me that this is a cause worth fighting for!  First I was fighting for something that was right, now I'm mad.

No parent should ever have to go through this loss because of vaccinations that are mandated and in my opinion, nothing more than experiments on our babies and children at such a huge cost.

i have a girlfriend who's son was damaged by the MMR vaccine. this year she is taking him to a speech pathologist. the speech pathologist says she sees many children who experience speech delays after a vaccine ... huh?! so if it's so obvious to this speech pathologist ... why is the medical profession still saying no side effects really exist. jeepers!

hi,
someone asked a few days ago about translating this italian text (far below) and i can't remember where, so i'm x-posting... a german/italian speaker kindly translated it for me into german, so here is the english transl. with regard to our knowledge to call "autism" autism, this is incomplete, no longer sufficient for us; we should say that the illness is called "damage through encephalitis". and here the explanation: the vaccines cause a swelling, an inflammation of the brain and this is what happened to them. if we want to find names for the things in front of our eyes, we would have to say "encephalic syndrome caused by ?myelin? (mielite is inflammation of the spinal fluid) caused by mercury poisoning, viral fit, containing poison, with ?colitic? and own anti-bodies. nah, much to complicated, it's better to say "autism".......

Just a note, when my son had his reaction to his first round of shots, I questioned the doctor about thimerosal in the vaccines. He insisted the vaccines no longer contain thimerosal. I asked him if I could read the package insert. So he heaved a big sigh and when to get one. He came back in, made a big production about unfolding it and said, "Here, these are the  ingredients."  He then turned about as beet red as he possibly good and said, "Whoops, it looks like it does still contain thimerosal. Huh... I thought they had removed thimerosal from vaccines." With that he giggled, shoved the paper at me, said, "Oops...Oh well....for what it's worth," and left the room.

I was stunned.  This after the other doctor in the practice had spent 30 minutes convincing me (read coercing me) into doing the shots in the first place when I expressed concern because of our family's history of reactions to vaccines. The doctor that "discovered" the thimerosal with me then tried to coerce me into giving Kaiden more shots every visit we went in (and we were there a lot because of all of the problems from the reaction) and said, "Let's just try one and see what happens..."  Thank god, I finally came out of my stupor and left the jerk.  What the *%^& was I thinking?!  If I only knew then what I know now...

Truly,
 

Last week I was at the Christian school my children had previously attended. I noticed a student in probably the 5th or 6th grade with long hair on the back of her head, but on the rest of her head she appeared to have very short hair.  I know this is not part of the school's dress code.  She looked like a chemo patient, except for the very long strands of hair on the back of her head, like a pony tail.  I asked someone if she had been ill.  I was told that she had a reaction to an immunization LAST YEAR!!  All her hair had fallen out, except for the "pony tail."  How sad.  I don't know this family, but have to wonder if she has other symptoms as well. 

I started being resistant to immunizations for my children when they were babies.  Not because I had any knowledge about the symptoms and dangers, but because I didn't want to sign the consent forms listing all the possible side effects.  I think I have told you that the pediatrician refused to let my children be his patients from that point on. 

Name withheld................

JAMA. 1997 Oct 8; 278(14): 1176-8.
MA: CONTEXT: Alopecia is a recognized adverse effect of numerous medications, but vaccines are not normally considered a cause for unexpected loss of hair. OBJECTIVE: To describe case reports of hair loss after routine vaccines and to assess the hypothesis that vaccinations might induce hair loss. DESIGN: Case series with telephone follow-up. METHODS: Review of spontaneous reports to the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for  Disease Control and Prevention, and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Loss of hair following immunization. RESULTS: A total of 60 evaluable reports submitted since 1984 and coded for "alopecia" after immunizations included 16 with positive rechallenge (hair loss after vaccination on more than 1 occasion), 4 of which were definite and 12 possible or probable. Of the 60 cases, 46 had received hepatitis B vaccines. Both of the currently available recombinant products, as well as the former plasma-derived product, were represented. Females predominated in all age groups. The majority of patients recovered, but clinical features, such as intervals from vaccination until onset and the extent and reversibility of hair loss, varied widely. Nine patients reported previous medication allergy. CONCLUSION: There may be an association, probably very rare, between vaccinations and hair loss. More than 1 pathophysiologic mechanism may be responsible. Since apparently nonrandom distributions by vaccine, age, and sex could reflect biased case ascertainment, further research will be needed in defined populations with consistent case detection. RO: National-Library-of-Medicine

  I'm hoping someone can help guide me in the right direction in a lawsuit for a MMR damaged child. I am clueless and have no idea where to start. This is long, but I hope you'll continue to read and be able to offer some advice on this unfortunate situation.   My friends had a typically developing 18 month old boy. Walking, talking, eating by himself, climbing stairs, etc. He then developed a high fever, had trouble with his balance and had a "swimming" eye. They contacted his pediatrician with their concerns and was told it was probably a virus and put the child on antibiotics. After 10 days and many phone calls to the doctor, there was no improvement, but he was getting worse. He woke up one morning paralyzed on his right side. His eyes were shut and he was unable to open them. They rushed him to John Hopkins in Baltimore, MD, where he spent the next 9 days undergoing many MRI's, spinal taps and being fed steriods via IV. A team of 6 pediatric neurologists made him top priority, but still could not help them. He had a lesion on his brain that extended down the brain stem. They didn't know what it was, what caused it, or what to do about it. They finally released Maxwell to go home. There was no improvement, no hope for what could be done, and nothing further they could do for him. His parents expressed their concern over possibly being the vaccinations he had 11 days prior to all this happening. No one listened to their concerns and didn't investigate this possibility. He had the MMR, DPT, and a combo Vac all at the same time, while the child was ill with hoof and mouth disease.    They went home discouraged, only to rush Maxwell back to John Hopkins 5 days later after he developed a continuous twitch in his leg. Still after 7 more days, more MRI's and a total of 9 spinal taps, he was released with no improvement. Hopeless siuation for all  of us. This is when I found this informative group and Sheri advised that they seek attention from a homeopath. I relayed the message to them and they set up an appointment immediately for someone in Virginia. (we live in PA) Sure enough, she said his damage was caused by the MMR vaccine and started him on a rememdy to rid is body of this. That was several months ago. They continue their trek to  Virginia every 3 weeks and we're happy to report some changes in his condition. Very MINOR improvements,but improvements just the same. He can now roll over, can manage to hold his head back far enough to see a little out of the slits of his eyes (they are still shut), can now say a few words, such as Mommie and eat. This is a child that is pretty much at a 9 month level now. They have started him on physical and occupational therapy and are considering having his eyelids sewn open so his eye sight will not be damaged. Needless to say this has taken a toll on his family and friends in more ways then one.    Maxwell's mother is a stay at home mom to him and his older 5 year old brother and his dad is  vice president at a large bank. Once happy, they now face many challenges, especially financially. They will now have to foreclose on their home as Maxwell's expenses each month, leaves very little money left over. They are desperate and do not know where to turn. Perhaps a lawsuit? But there is no money for a lawyer. Is there any emergency funds available for something drastic like this? We welcome any advice and suggestions. We are desperate and need help and guidance.
Thank you,
Traci in PA            
 

Last year when my 3 year old was in daycare, she came down with a nasty case of chicken pox (her second time getting them). In fact, many of the kids in the daycare-and many of them vaccinated against varicella- came down with terrible cases of them. Three kids that had already had chicken pox got them again and two parents that had already had them got them again. The doctors speculated that the disease may have mutated because of the vaccine allowing the kids and adults to get them again. I plan on taking my son to play with the  first kid we know of that gets them!

Hi everyone, happy thanksgiving,
sorry but I think my previous message got lost, I'm not very good with computers. I'm new to this group but I've been visiting this site for some time now. I have four children and my youngest daughter XXXXXXX is autistic. To make a long story short, she was "normal" till age 3 when she started to regress. Before that, she had a DPT shot when she was 21/2 and that's when she started to have serious bowel problems. I've been trying to get her back since then and I've  been attending DAN conferences since they started in Montreal. XXXXX is on the GF/CF diet and eats mostly organic food. She's been tested and retested in labs like Great Plains, Great Smokies and Doctors Data. I even went to Texas two years ago and consulted a DAN doctor. I went a little overboard financially and realised I couldn't keep up. Nevertheless, I never stopped trying and finally found a naturopath here in my province, who understands the problems my daughter is facing. He attends conferences in the U.S on autism and beeing German, he also has links in Europe. XXXXXX has been on chelation for 2 years, yes she tried DMSA for 6 months but when I stopped consulting the Texas doctor, I stopped DMSA. She didn't realy respond to that, I think it wasn't for her. We are now working on her lipids and she takes oils and supplements plus nutrients derived from plants and veggies ( the formula comes from France and is called Pianto). The problem with xxxxx is that I have trouble getting her to concentrate, she still has bowel problems from time to time and a lot of anxiety. I read about GABA and Preg. and other stuff, and I'm wondering if anything would be indicated for her?

My son has had severe reflux since his first (and only) shots at 8 weeks old. He "choked" as well which is really aspirating (sucking fluid into the lungs).  He is on Baby Pepcid (coincidentally the "in" drug for all the thousands of babies that now have reflux!) and it costs $100/bottle and is in such high demand we have trouble getting it. Hmmmm... anyone see a connection?!

We have an appointment to see a homeopath for him next Tuesday. I'll keep you posted on what happens! I can't wait to get him off the medicine.

Just want to say I called my mom and dad tonight in Tucson.

They have refused the flu vax for the last few years under the influence of me.

Today my mom went to her internist. (my mom is an RN graduating in 1948!) He said - 'have you had your flu vax'
Mom:  No
Dr.:  Why not?
Mom:  Because it has mercury/thimerosal in it and I don't want that.
Dr.  (mom said he was shocked)  Why would there be someting like that in something that is good for you?
Mom:  Well its in there
Dr.:  Can you tell me who told you this
Mom:  No, I don't want to say (she thinks she needs to protect me or they'll come after me - I told her I'm already plastered everywhere around
the planet)
Dr.  Well, can you get me information on it?
Mom:  Yes I can.  And then she told him that mercury also was in children's vaccines until just recently some was taken out and he didn't say anything Dr.  Well, I read as much as I can and want to know these things so really would like what you can get for me
Mom:  OK

Mom says he's a really nice doc and she likes him

I said, that may well be, but where has he been,under a rock?

I said if you'd known all you'd have had to say was look at the package insert in the box in your medicine room. Jeeshhhhhhhhhh. 

So even the good docs don't have a clue........mom said to me he probably got his info from the drug rep.
GO MOM!

So now I get to copy the package insert and send it 1/2 way around the globe when the info is right in the flu vax box in his office and his PDR.
DUHHHHHHHH
 

I also first joined this list when my daughter was around 3 months. I was a
first time mom and I was very confused about the whole vaccination issue. I
was lucky that I was unsure enough to hold off on vaccination until I
learned more. Now my daughter is 13 mos and I am not confused any longer.
This list is wonderful and I no longer have any doubts. I can see how
healthy she is and how great she is turning out. It is normal to have all
these questions in the beginning, but just read as much as possible and
keep talking to everyone here. I am so thankful for finding this group and
doing the best for my daughter. I refuse to live in fear and I have always
taken her out everywhere with me and she has been exposed to many kids. I
prefer to keep her immune system healthy as the best defense. I have an
8-year-old stepson and he was fully vaccinated. He comes over several times
a week and he is sick pretty much every week too. He hugs and kisses my
daughter and she has never caught anything from him. I know it is hard to
worry when they are so young. Are you breastfeeding? I believe that
breastfeeding and not vaccinating are the best things you can do to keep
her healthy. I don't talk much about not vaccinating to other people
outside the family. It is really none of their business. Sometimes I just
want to talk to everyone about it, but I am not too comfortable with that
yet. Maybe when she is older. About the "vaccine-preventable" diseases, I
think it is good to read about them and familiarize yourself if you
vaccinate or not. Many children that are vaccinated still get these
diseases and just because you don't vax it doesn't mean that your child
will get them. Welcome to the group. What state are you in?


 

I'm hoping someone can help guide me in the right direction in a lawsuit for a MMR damaged child. I am clueless and have no idea where to start. This is long, but I hope you'll continue to read and be able to offer some advice on this unfortunate situation.    My friends had a typically developing 18 month old boy. Walking, talking, eating by himself, climbing stairs, etc. He then developed a high fever, had trouble with his balance and had a "swimming" eye.  They contacted his pediatrician with their concerns and was told it was probably a virus and put the child on antibiotics. After 10 days and many phone calls to the doctor, there was no improvement, but he
was getting worse. He woke up one morning paralyzed on his right side. His eyes were shut and he was unable to open them. They rushed him to John Hopkins in Baltimore, MD, where he spent the next 9 days undergoing many MRI's, spinal taps and being fed steriods via IV. A team of 6 pediatric neurologists made him top priority, but still could not help them. He had a lesion on his brain that extended down the brain stem. They didn't know what it was, what caused it, or what to do about it. They finally released XXXXXX to go home. There was no improvement, no hope for what could be done, and nothing further they could do for him. His parents expressed their concern over possibly being the vaccinations he had 11 days prior to all this happening. No one listened to their concerns and didn't investigate this possibility. He had the MMR, DPT, and a combo Vac all at the
same time, while the child was ill with hoof and mouth disease.    They went home discouraged, only to rush XXXXX back to JohnHopkins 5 days later after he developed a continuous twitch in his
leg. Still after 7 more days, more MRI's and a total of 9 spinal taps, he was released with no improvement. Hopeless situation for all of us. This is when I found this informative group and Sheri advised that they seek attention from a homeopath. I relayed the message to them and they set up an appointment immediately for someone in Virginia. (we live in PA) Sure enough, she said his damage was caused by the MMR vaccine and started him on a remedy to rid is body of this. That was several months ago. They continue their trek to Virginia every 3 weeks and we're happy to report some changes in his condition. Very MINOR improvements, but improvements just the same. He can now roll over, can manage to hold his head back far enough to see a little out of the slits of his eyes (they are still shut), can now say a few words, such as Mommie and eat. This is a child that is pretty much at a 9 month level now. They have started him on physical and occupational therapy and are considering having his eyelids sewn open so his eye sight will not be damaged. Needless to say this has taken a toll on his family and friends in more ways then one.
  XXXXXX's mother is a stay at home mom to him and his older 5 year old brother and his dad is  vice president at a large bank. Once happy, they now face many challenges, especially financially. They will now have to foreclose on their home as XXXXXl's expenses each month, leaves very little money left over. They are desperate and do not know where to turn. Perhaps a lawsuit? But there is no money for a lawyer. Is there any emergency funds available for something drastic like this? We welcome any advice and suggestions. We are desperate and need help and guidance.

I've been begging my parents not to get the flu shot anymore.  My step mom who has myeloma cancer, was told by her doctor that she needed to get the flu shot.  She told him that I have said that it is linked to Alzheimer's.  She said he laughed and laughed about that.  Then I asked her well, did you get it, and she said no.  I am glad for that but sickened that doctors are so ignorant at the detriment of their patients.

http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/Stories/0,1413,209%257E22484%257E1081097,00.html
Little lives are not forgotten
The Unforgettables Foundation's Lights for Little Lives' candlelighting ceremony is scheduled for New Year's Eve.
By DAVID JAMES HEISS
Staff Writer

REDLANDS When Dallas Hayes, the son of Dawnisha and Larry Hayes, of Mentone, was born, his parents were told that he was "the textbook baby."

Dallas was perfectly healthy, perfectly normal.

Dawnisha Hayes, who is now pregnant with another child, hopes that Dallas' story will be a lesson for parents: three-and-a-half month-old Dallas went in for his routine immunizations against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis with deadly results.

"He was a perfectly healthy baby," Hayes said. "After he got his shot, he got a very, very high fever and passed away in the middle of the night.

"What people don't realize," Hayes said, "is that people have a choice. There's no law requiring' babies to get immunizations, because unfortunately some babies have side effects to the DTP shot: autism, brain damage, seizure disorders and even death."

Most parents are not prepared to bury their children, and the Hayeses were no exception.

Fortunately Larry Hayes works for nutritional services at Loma Linda University Medical Center, and knew Tim Evans, cofounder of The Unforgettables Foundation.

In the three years since its founding, Redlands-based The Unforgettables Foundation has assisted nearly 300 families financially and emotionally, providing dignified burials for children who died before their parents.

"No parent in the universe who wakes up in the morning plans the day for their child's death," said LLUMC child protection center coordinator Marie Dawson. "They're completely unprepared for it."

"The last thing someone needs in a crisis is to worry about burial expenses," said cofounder Sonya Evans. "It's been a pretty good effort. We've had a lot of support from volunteers for what we have. We've done well."

"When we formed this three years ago, we estimated that we would probably end up helping 75 families in our first year, and 100 during the second," said Tim Evans. "It's amazing how close we were: with 85 that first year, 100 in the second. As of early December, we already had a 100 requests for assistance this year."

The inaugural chairman of the organization, Thomas Sherwin, a pediatric emergency technician and medical director for the pediatric emergency department at LLUMC, has made sure the Unforgettables provides not only memorial celebrations of life, but is also preventing unnecessary deaths and educating people in the process

My son XXXX (is 3 1/2 years old)  lost the ability to speak after the MMR at the age of 13 months.  Prior to the shot he had been babbling, and saying ma and hi.  He could make no speech sounds at all for the next 14 months--all we heard was grunts from him.  He also appeared to not hear when we said his name.  He also had episodes when his eyes would roll back in his head for a few seconds.  We now know these could have been seizures.  These resolved about the time he started babbling again at the age of 27 months.  This past August he was diagnosed with a severe phonological disorder.  His speech is improving and we are pleased with his progress.  His hearing tested normal. 

Although we have gotten both a medical and religious exemption for vaccines, we still want to know what happened to him.  Was it mercury toxicity from the thimerosal?  Was it a vaccine induced encephalopathy that caused damage from which he is slowly recovering?  Was it an autoimmune reaction?  We are considering filing a claim for an off the table injury with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund.  Has anyone been down that path and willing to share about it?

I am hoping someone can relate to our story.  This has been a long and lonely road.  Finding a doctor who thinks that vaccine injuries can and do occur is a very very difficult task.  We do have him on video after the MMR when he could only grunt-it was as though he could not move his mouth.  Can any one recommend doctors (pediatric neurologists, language regression specialists, vaccine injury specialists) who can evaluate our son/ videotape and tell us what may have happened? 

welcome to the list. My son was hospitalized after the MMR. He didn't lose speech, but he was never the same. He suffered terrible gastrointestinal symptoms, and was diagnosed FTT. He couldn't eat, vomited all the time, and had terrible temper tantrums (melt downs). I know of two very good pediatric gastro specialists who have found measles in the gut, Dr. Krigsman, New York, and Dr. Buie, Boston.  But, you don't say whether your son has intestinal symptoms. There is a very good pediatric neurologist Dr. Andrew Zimmerman Kennedy Krieger in Maryland. Don't know if you could convince him of vaccine injury though. Has he ever received an MRI?
 

Much of the what the representatives of the STATE are being quoted as saying....such as... "....we find that many medical exemptions are BOGUS, due to MEDICAL QUACKERY".... or..."I have never heard of the Congregation of Universal Wisdom."....   or "religious conversion right before the exemptions are invoked."   ....has no basis for their individual scrutiny. These statements are THEIR own prejudices against those who are not involved in THEIR philosophies.  Anyone can convert to any religion or moral/ethical philosophy at any point in their lives.  It is of no one business what converts them or why.

When THEY make comment that the POLIO or MEASLES outbreaks that reoccurred were in the Amish or Mennonite Communities, they are using this as a basis of prejudice also.  They do not state that some of their communities actually take the advice of the CDC and vaccinate their children.  Many Amish couples I know have decided to go against the common tenets of their particular community by NOT VACCINATING their children.  Some have 12 and 16 children.  The older ones (most often) were vaccinated and as the parents became wiser on the subject, they decided to not vaccinate their younger children. What is never mentioned in any of these (quickly place together and highly edited) articles is that often the illnesses come to the non vaccinated through the illness of a vaccinated child(ren) of the community. The vaccinated children as experiencing the "symptoms of the disease" (that the CDC and the AAP) state are just the child's immune system REACTING to the vaccine.  It is never stated that the recently vaccinated child(ren) are now contagious and spreading the disease throughout the community.  And due to the fact that the Amish and Mennonite Communities are often so tightly net, the outbreaks are confined within those communities.  Thus it is easily tracked and their numbers revealed readily to the medical authorities.

The nurse also claims that the outbreaks of whooping cough is "horrible".."the children turn blue as they cough and may have to have oxygen sprayed into their faces.... "   What she fails to mention is that those children that she sees in the hospital setting have had at least two or more vaccines for PERTUSSIS...Whooping cough before the outbread occurs... Often these same children as 1.) not breast fed, and 2.) have been given some sort of antibiotic or even Tylenol or some form of anti fever medication to dispell the side effects of that vaccines.

I personally know of well over 25 persons who had whooping cough... (some with the benefit of using homeopathic remedies or some other complementary form of healthcare and others who were not)... all of these folks are happy, healthy and ALIVE today.   I know of a far greater number of vaccine damaged children who are NOT HEALTHY... nor are they HAPPY... and several are NOT ALIVE TODAY...   That is the truth and the facts speak for themselves... Their so called "fear of an EPIDEMIC" is the bogus attitudes that are seen today...  Autism, asthma, learning disabilities, behavioral disorders,  Chronic Ear INFECTIONS that lead to pneumonia and meningitis, SIDS, childhood cancers and leukemia, and juvenile rheumatoid arthritis are the epidemics of the present day...  What are we trading here?   Who and what are we attempting to cure or "clean" from the human DNA/RNA chain?  These points are never addressed in a majority of these articles...

Please take note of the following... I know that I have mentioned this before.....  In the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania the School Code lists under their exemptions one that is labeled "RELIGIOUS"..   You do not have to belong to any particular "RELIGION" that lists vaccines as "against our tenets"..... for there is also the portion of the exemption that states ...."or a moral/ethical belief similar to that of a RELIGIOUS BELIEF."    No
one has the right to question your religion or your moral/ethical belief systems..  This means that you can be an ATHEIST and yet claim the "religious exemption".  Atheism is a MORAL/ETHICAL BELIEF and thus qualifies under the religious exemption under this law.   It is against all CIVIL RIGHTS clauses to question a person on their religion as a basis of keeping them out of a school, business establishment, club, society or a to stop their commerce in any way.  When anyone questions your "RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION status under immunization laws, this is a violation of their CIVIL RIGHTS. Please understand that and keep that close to your heart, for that is the TRUTH... and all that really matters...
 

Even waiting till 2 does not guarantee safety.  My grandson was 23 months when he received the MMR and the Chickenpox in the same day!  That week he began his regression, and his spiralling into autism.  Before that of course, we were totally ignorant of facts about vaccines and trusting the doctor.  My grandson, like your son, had reactions at 2 months.  They were downplayed by the doctor though he did change the schedule to DT instead of DPT. Does that tell us something? 

Welcome to the group.  I just wanted to say that unless your doctor is the exception to the rule, you will probably see a little anger, and her defense might be a reprimand, and an attempt to intimidate you into submission.  There is an old saying that may apply to doctors who choose to trust the AMA, and value their medical license (they actually can lose their license if they take an antivaccination stance) "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" 

 

Just a little fact: former USSR (yes, that evil communist Russia) did NOT allow vaccinating children within 30 calendar days after any minor illness...and prior to giving any vaccines, every healthy baby had to be examined by a pediatric neurologist (not just a family ped) for "clearance"...first vaccines were to be given at the age of four (4) months.
 

We just returned after 3 days at Massachusetts General Hospital in  Boston where William received a gastrointestinal endoscopy, as well as  a battery of all available state of the art tests for a medical  diagnosis.  
 Findings:  Noted nodular lymphoid hyperplasia at the sigmoid colon and  rectum.    This is the medical condition that Andy Wakefield is  finding with all (and only this set) of regressive autistic children.
 
 For us, it is a final answer to our questions about William's severe  food allergies, lack of ability to absorb nutrition to the brain, the  neurological damage that occurred to a once normal little boy.  It   proves that something happened to him, and that there is a medical  condition underlying his disability.
 
 William's gut is healing, as noted by Dr. Buie and his team.  The  nodules are soft and the inflammation is mild.  Something they are not  finding in all 4 year olds.  We will have test results and recommended
 treatments within a few weeks.
 

From what I understand you Have to give consent for the HepB to be given to the baby... just like any other shot. Maybe the perinatal coordinator was going to get the consent from you this early~ before the baby is born?

With one of my babies(he's now 4), the nurse came in the day after I had him and said "we're going to give the HepB shot now" and I said "I don't want that shot". She actually got mad at me and started the same old stuff (the baby Has to have it to go to daycare and then school! etc...) I said, "I don't think  my Infant has to worry about IV drug usage or sex, so we'll WAIT, thank you". She was still angry, wrote something on my baby's chart and stomped out of the room!lol The next baby I had at home, so I didn't hear it ;-)

My last baby(now 7.5mos old) I had in the hospital though, and they were not happy with us declining it. Now that I'm writing this out, I'm wondering if they Would have just given her the shot w/o our consent... DH stayed with her the Entire time she was in the nursery(weighing, measuring, etc.) because he told me he didn't trust the nurse(which if you knew my husband is a Big deal~ he's usually very nonchalant and nonconfrontational about pretty much everything.) He said he got the distinct impression that she was
irritated with him being there, and he wondered if she was going to try to "do something" behind our backs...

On the college front though, I just wanted to tell you that my oldest DD(20) just started our local community college this 2nd semester and they did Not ask for her vaccination record. I bet it depends on the college and when you enroll...
 

Yes, I got the measles and the mumps from the MMR while in college (1989). Sick as a dog, couldn't open my eyes, 104 fever, huge swollen glands... in bed for 4 days. I then developed severe allergies to every food, makeup, hairspray, shampoo, environmental allergent, you name it. Then CFS, IBS, and eventually myofacial pain syndrome. But - I was 20 years old! I should have never had the shot (again as an adult). I'd already been vaccinated with it as a child. My brother lost his hearing from the MMR shot as a child. My daughter got the measles from her MMR shot in 1999. She had a fever, watery eyes, typical cold symptoms, and small rash.  So as you can see, my family has a sensitivity to the shots. 

Very different to get it via the shot than the "normal" way. Of course the doctors all insisted you can't get the measles from the shot - until they saw us! Then they were all baffled, "huh..well, yeah, you have the measles (your daughter has the measles) I guess it *can* happen..."

I'll take my chances with my son getting it the "natural" way. He's already autistic from his DPT.

 

 
I would like to introduce myself.  My name is XXXXX and I have 3 sons.  I have had nothing but problems with shots.  My first son XXXX, now 5 1/2,spiked a high fever after each shot.  He suffered from multiple ear infections and pneumonia.  After his MMR he developed roseola "just a coincidence"  I was told.  My second son XXXXX developed menengitis a few days after his 2 month old shots.  Then a month after his MMR he stopped talking, looking at people and staring off into space.  He was diagnosed with autism and now has seizures.  My third son XXXXX, is now 1 and I refuse to have him vaccinated.  I fight with his doctor about it constantly but refuse to do so.  I have read that most other countries do not vaccinate until children are older.  Is this true?  I am also trying to figure out if I should vaccinate XXXXX later in life and in single shot doses rather than the multiple shots now, or if I should get the booster shots for my other sons----I don't know what to do!  I'm glad I found this group because the only other person I have asked have been doctors and we all know what their answers are!
 

This open letter is amazing. I am freaked out right now and in great  admiration of this doctor for taking such a bold step.  Am I the only one that thinks vaccines are being used to make our children  sick on purpose? I know I sound like I'm paranoid. I am truly beginning to  think it is one big conspiracy theory. Someone help me if I'm losing it. In  my own experience, I found it very coincidental "baby reflux" has increased  so dramatically and wonders upon wonders, Merck has just the cure (a  $100/month bottle of "baby" pepcid). Hmmm... it was the Merck vaccine that  poisoned my kid.

 Also... seems like all the moms I talk to today have a child with food  allergies, or autism, or speech delays, or ADHD, or sensory integration  dysfunction. Just about every mom I know right now has some issue of this  sort. When I was a kid, there was only one kid on our whole entire block (of  about 30 kids) that was "just a little different." My own brother was the  only one with allergies (who coincidently - not - lost his hearing from the  MMR and now I know his allergies were a direct result of his shots). But in  any event...  I know this group sees it, but why don't all the other people?  OK, I am being paranoid, right?

 I'm sorry... can you tell I am venting tonight. I've had it! The good  news... I convinced one mom I met at a mother's group to reconsider vaccines  after her 10 month old developed life threatening allergies after her second  round of shots. And her 4 year old suddenly developed all over eczema.  Within three days she went from "I highly doubt there is any connection to  vaccines and allergies," to "why is it I have talked to four other moms of  children with severe food allergies and all of our kids had bad reactions to  vaccines?!" Ahhh... my heart breaks for the moms but I felt a little bit  better. ;)

 

  Thanks must go to Rex Warren for forwarding this information. Please read   this full-page ad from the New York Times (link below) and know that there  are courageous and honest doctors out there but that they are a minority  and   need our help. Please write to Dr. Rath and thank him for his stand on  this   issue. I am going to offer to run a full-page ad for him in the next issue  of Informed Choice Magazine. May millions see his information all over the   world and may we wake up from our sheep-like state and put a stop to the  madness of the few that can kill and maim so many!
  http://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/makehealthnotwar/openletter.html
 

I started to realise too that a lot of the info I give or reasons why I don't vax just go in one ear and out the other.  Again my mom said, "I just don't understand how you girls both ended up with such bad asthma, maybe it was because of that factory that was just a few miles away..."  I said, "No, it's because of all the vaccines we got and you didn't."  I explained to her how my asthma got worse when I had a MMR booster at 20 and how my sister's girl now has asthma and behavior/anger/attention problems(vaxed) and my two kids don't.  She still won't accept it, just gets quiet.
 

I have heard that Ped's go to classes that teach them how to respond to parents fears of vaccinations.  The "understanding" attitude is one of their tactics.  But the fact they told you your child needed the number of vaccines they did is proof it is just a tactic.  They are concerned about the AMA and their medical license, not whether your child can handle vaccines.  When parents give in to the pressure and vaccinate and their child and have a reaction those "understanding" doctors say there is no connection between the reaction and vaccines.   Cathy

 

So XXXXX got his vaccine on Tuesday and last night he had a seizure. Now   after talking to his mom she's convinced there is no connection to the  vaccine. He has no fever, had no fever.  He's 6 months old.  What are the chances of this being a coincidence? It was more of a  convulsion type thing that an all out seizure. Lasting only a minute or so.
 

hi...i tend to lurk...but i just had to express my equal frustration. My children are in daycare 2 days a week and on friday i noticed that a little girl who was sick and lethargic last week is still ill this week.  THe daycare workers were expressing concern, and apparently the mother didnt have any concerns since she was vaccinated last week and "This is just normal"!!!!!  A WEEK!  Shes red faced, and her cheeks seem swollen, and her eyes are squinty and allll she does is sleep. THe daycare staff told me that shes usually only awake for 30-60 min a day!  How is this normal?  *grr*
 

I have had a similar thing, new parents signed on at a new doctors, went to discuss mmr with the doc for the 20 month, was told that they had been listening to the *horror stories* and were given the *information* on the 2,3,4 month and the mmr vaxes (not the list of ingredients!!) and have decided that I am only out for scaring them!! i had been able to convince them that the *reflux* that their son had 48 hours after 2nd lot of vax, when he stopped breathing and was rushed to hospital, was in fact vaccine a
reaction, but it seems I was talking to the wall!!! sorry for the rant!!!
 

I second this. My son XXX was more than a year behind after he lost the ability to speak after the MMR at the age of 13 months and could ONLY GRUNT for the next 14 months. Read the book, Late Talking children, they may help calm you down. Wade is now progressing with his speech and although not caught up yet, we expect a full recovery.
 

2003---It
happened to my family, will it happen to others?

Parents,

Sunday, February 23, 2003, I was home in the early afternoon with my son, Eric. My wife, Helen and my 14 year-old daughter, Julie were off at a play performance a mile away from home. For those that do not know, Eric is 6 feet tall and weighs approximately 150-160 pounds and is 18 years old. He is very muscular. I'm 5'10", 220 pounds and 58 years old.

Eric was eating when he started to have a tantrum. I had to run in one of the rooms and lock the door until Eric calmed down. Usually it works but this day it didn't. Eric started to kick, head butt, scratch and bite. I
couldn't get into the bathroom door to lock it so I ran to the front door. Eric followed me where he head butted me and pulled my hair.

I then ran outside across the street to get help from my neighbor. Eric followed me. When I got to the front door of my neighbor, Eric bit me left hand and had two of my fingers in his mouth clamping down with his teeth (the index finger next to my thumb and the finger next to that). I was in extreme pain and with my right hand worked Eric's teeth off of my left hand. If I hadn't done it sooner, I would have lost the two fingers because the one finger was bitten so severely that the nail was hanging off. I rang the doorbell and my neighbor came out and helped me with his wife and a young girlfriend of their son. Another neighbor came and helped with Eric. I was treated for my head scrape, my nose bleed and wounds on my hand (that I later found out were more severe). The police were called (two came) and my wife and daughter were called. The Emergency Squad came and took me to the Emergency Room at the local hospital.

At the hospital, there were X-rays taken and they found that my left index finger (one next to the thumb) had the tip of the bone amputated from the rest of my finger. Eric had actually bitten through the bone of my hand. A hand surgeon was in the area and he came by and after my wounds were cleaned and my finger soaked in an antibiotic solution, it was stitched up with the finger nail put back in the correct position. It was bandaged up along with my other finger on the end that had been badly bitten. I received
antibiotics and pain killers and are taking them now ....Augmentin and Oxycodone w/Apap respectively.

This isn't the first time Eric has attacked me, Helen and Julie and it was mentioned at the December 10, 2002 hearing in Washington DC conducted by Congressman Dan Burton. (see http://www.autismautoimmunityproject.org/120302_hearing.html) Congressman  Burton mentioned that his grandson could eventually be 6'10" and ask the people at the hearing what would happen when all these children grow up and have these behaviors.

I have been fighting since 1995 regarding the MMR vaccine link to autism. In 1998, our organization, The Autism Autoimmunity Project was founded and to date we have raised a bit over $120,000.00 for research. In talking to Dr. Vijendra Singh of the Utah State University (who has been funded for his research into the autoimmune link to autism) he knows that we could be treating these children with various immunotherapies but unfortunately the money is not there. We could do a lot more for the children with autism but most of the millions of dollars of research funds are spent on genetic and drug studies.....and very little on the immune and gastrointestinal research unless it is by small organizations like ours.

It is a shame because in 5, 10 and 15 years, there will be more families that will have the same thing happen to them. Will the children attack a family member, someone at school or a stranger? These children will grow up to be large, healthy adults.....what will happen then? I'm facing the situation now where I'm racing against time to get my son better through homeopathic treatment. My son regressed into autism after the MMR vaccine in 1986 (at one year, three months old) and in 1993-1994, his behaviors got worse because of three hepatitis B shots he got with thimerosal in them. By looking at the pediatrician's notes that we recently got and a record of the vaccines Eric got, an MD could see the connection as could me and my wife.

What will happen over the next 5, 10 and 15 years? Will we get the treatments or will we face a bleak landscape of children growing into adults and not being helped? Our family has to face the prospect that if we can't help Eric, he will be sent to an institution where he will surely die.

Raymond Gallup, Founder Autism Autoimmunity Project
 

I do honestly believe that it was the vaccines that killed my son. I have mentioned it to his doctors but it just seems like they want an easy open and close case so they are just calling it SIDS. I am talking with a lawyer and I am filing a claim with the vaccine injury compensation program (VICP). I am suprized that the medical industry has gotten away with it for this long because I read on the VICP website that over 90% of the claims filed with them involving infants and death were originally listed as SIDS until the VICP investigated it further. To me that seems like way too many infant deaths cause from vaccines for them to still be allowed to vaccinate infants. You shouldnt recieve a vaccine for something if your chances of actually getting the disease that you are being vaccinated against is lower then your chance of having a reaction to the vaccine. Alot of the vaccines they are requiring infants to get, they really dont need. Like polio, the only known cases of polio in the US are from when they used to give the live vaccine and people got it from that,and even then there is only like six people who have polio in the united states right now. Polio used to be something we had to worry about but I dont think we do know because it isnt around like it used to be. some of the vaccines out there are pointless but the medical industry doesnt care because they are making money off of it. They have it so they are going to use it.
 

I learned something interesting this week. My sister has a 5 month old baby and is following Dr. Cave's vaccine schedule. She is getting ready to have her 1st DTaP and brought home the package insert for me to read prior to allowing them to "stick" her daughter with it. Keep in mind that these are the new 1 dose vials. It reads as plain as day, "The 1 dose vial of vaccine is formulated without preservatives but contains a trace amount of thimerosal[(mercury derivative), 25 mg mercuy/dose]. I was infuriated! After all, the FDA, etc. is jumping up and down assuring parents that thimerosal is no longer on the shelves! Well, I have proof that it is...in the new 1 dose vials! UGH!!!!!
 

Hi Wendy, I thought you would like to see my letter to the "dr." who wrote about the "free ride." What do you think? (Herd Immunity)

Dear Dr. Nathanson,
I would like to respond to your recent column concerning unvaccinated children. You are obviously a strong proponent of vaccines, and I respect your right to your opinion, but I should like to share with you "the other side of the coin."

A year ago, I believed in vaccinations wholeheartedly. I vaccinated both my children and waved those immunization cards around proudly. My eldest child did just fine; she is bright, articulate and full of joy. I wish I could tell you my other child faired as well. Within days of his 5 month series of shots, my child who was sitting, rolling, and laughing...began to seize uncontrollably. I know you will say "coincidence"; however, a 6 month hospitalization, with every conceivable test performed and every known anti-epileptic treatment tried yielded no answers. He was seen by the top epileptologists in the state of NY, who conferred with the top epileptologists around the world, and a year later, the only answer we have is "idiopathic."

You mention a "free ride," Dr. Nathanson. I would like to invite you to come and meet my "free ride"; my son, who now at 19 months old, no longer can hold up his head, much less sit, needs to be fed by a feeding tube, doesn't know any member of his family, and still seizes uncontrollably, despite mega doses of drugs. His care has depleted our savings, and our spirits -- one medicine alone costs us $175 every 10 days, and that is out of pocket with insurance. Our simple dreams have been shattered, and our lives irrevocably changed. Far from "free," doctor; we have paid the ultimate price for this ride.

I do not expect that my little story will change your mind, or even phase you. I would just like to make a point. Parents who choose not to vaccinate have not arrived at their decision lightly. It is an agonizing journey, made with much research and soul searching. I spent hours choosing the correct car seat and stroller; perhaps if I had spent half as much time researching those shots, instead of holding my child down for them, I would be in a much different place.

My children are my life, and I will care for my son out of my unending love for him; however, my life on this "ride" will always be full of the "what ifs." I just wish you could have presented your own viewpoint without needlessly hurting those of us who already bear the greatest hurt of all.

 

I called each manufacturer to get the total amount of thimerosal exposure in my son.   I didn't have any problem getting the info.  You tell them the lot number and they'll tell you how much thimerosal.  They were able to tell me if it was multi or single dose as well.  I couldn't believe how causual they were about it.  It is still hard for me to believe that our children have been exposed to such dangerous substances.  I wish I had known and/or someone had pointed out the ingredients to me.
Can't find all the numbers.  Here is Connault  1-800-822-2463.  You can probably find the contact info. for the manufacturers on the web.
 

MMR dilemma-
I have an interesting problem. Mother of a family with an interesting historyt with the MMR vaccine.
First child, female, now 10, recieved the MMR at 15 months. Fifteen days later, had prolonged seizure ( 1 hour, rectal valium, the works) after which she was sent to the tertiary center, negative workup. Was on Phenobarb switch to Depakote secondary to sedation, weaned later and has never had a sz again. Second child, male, MMR with no problems. hird child, male, got MMR at 15 months, 2 days later had seizure, about 3 minutes, without fever. Did well, now 6 with no further sz. Fourth child, now 4. Mom is still refusing and is reluctant to give the MMR, which I can't blame her. What should I do, or how should I counsel this family?
 

I agree with Sheri. My 3 1/2 year old had his recommended vaccines, excluding the hep b, until he was a year old, I researched more when it came time for the MMR and that is when I stopped. I had met a woman
who's son was autistic. She said that he was starting to talk and was developing normally, then within 24 hours of the MMR he was went downhill. That scared me. Anyway, my three year old was sick quite a bit in his first year, he had a few ear infections and other illnesses, he is way behind on his speech and was recently diagnosed with asthma, another, all have been linked to vaccines. My ten month old hasn't had any vaccines and he has NEVER had an ear infection and has only had one cold so far. He is also already trying to talk. The differences are amazing!

It really can be a hard decision to make, go to the VAERS website, I did and found out that there are 1,644 PAGES of adverse reactions to vaccines in 2002 alone! That is PAGES not incidents! And those are just the ones that are reported! It is insane!
 

my 11 year old brother, who was vaxed for CP, had shingles last year. at the time, i had never heard of such a young child getting it, but it is going to become more and more common

My son also "reacted" to the Tetanus part of his DPT, not just the mercury in it (and he had his shots in September of 2001 well after all the thimerosal was "Supposed" to be removed). In fact, the doctor kept insisting it didn't have thimerosal until I made him read me the package insert and then he said, "Oops," giggled and threw the sheet back at me and said, "oh well...for what it's worth..." and walked out of the room. I walked out and never went back.
 

I remember an incident that happened last fall. I have myasthenia gravis (thank you, flu vaccine, 1998!) and was at my neurologist's office for my regular visit. He asked if I'd had my flu shot for the year, as they were offering them free to all the patients in the muscular dystrophy clinic (if you can imagine!). I looked at HIM like HE had five heads. I then simply replied, "No thank you, I've had enough mercury already." He had no comment...
 

Static encephalopathy, as I understand, means brain damage that is non changing. Basically "static" means non changing and "encephalopathy" is brain trauma or damage. Meaning that the damage is not getting worse, not progressive. Usually cases of static encephalopathy occur or are referred to with children who have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, a head injury or in our case IMMUNIZATIONS that caused brain damage. My neurologist said my son had "Static Encephalopathy" and I asked my pediatrician the next day what that was and he laughed and said "That means he has no idea what is wrong with your son or why he is like the way he is". Yeah, he thought it was funny!!!!! I almost choked him. So when they wont admit that immunizations are the cause they deem them to have static encephalopathy and in my case it was noted "Static encephalopathy with no known cause" Of course we know the cause.

Don't get frustrated when you research this you will see mostly references to FAS. I thought that he was implying that I drank during my pregnancy but he assured me it also happens for "unknown reasons"!!!!!! (unknown reasons=vaccinations) It basically means at some time in your sons development that he experienced something that damaged his brain and they don't know what .

 

Yeah she was a supporter of vaccinations, back in 2000 when most of us didn't know what was going on with them. I certainly hadn't made the connection between JR's vaccinations and his autism. Not until  June of 2001 did it start making some level of sense. And even then I didn't have the full picture. It wouldn't be until I got his medical records (September 2001) and was able to read them that the pieces actually started coming together. The "mysterious" upper respitory infection after a series of vaccines at 2 months of age. The Pink eye 1 week (exactly) receiving his very last (ever) vaccines of MMR with the boosters of DTap and Hep B. One month later another round of Pink Eye. And then for the next year every month after that a sinus infection. No I didn't know when he was a baby what the damaging effects were of vaccines. Hell we thought we were being good parents  vaccinating our kids. It never crossed our minds to question AND that was a time when my faith in the medical establishment was so-so at best. But still we never thought to question.

We live in the MidWest, and have a large family of kids, all from our single marriage. Unfortunately, four of those kids are confirmed autistics, almost certainly from adverse vaccine reactions that we were told never took place nor were any ever reported to the CDC ... very long story of 17+ years, filled with smoke, mirrors, coverups -- but at least we're all still here and together.

The affected kids range from very HFA (High Functioning) to 'not so  lucky'. One child was almost certainly damaged soon after birth by Vitamin K injection(s!), and additional vaccination did even more harm. The child after that one had three separate adverse vax reactions, and of course is the most damaged of the four. We've since learned what a nasty thing vaccines really are, and  refuse to vaccinate ever again and are going for a religious  exemption. But we were all-but-forced with various implied threats, especially with the 4th (damaged) child to still vaccinate, "or
else". With the incredibly obvious adverse reactions in the 4th, we were absolutely convinced. Vaccines caused our childrens' autism, no doubt about it. But we also now have suspicions that the Vitamin K shots may have set things in motion to begin with ...

We're now trying to learn all we can and maybe share that knowledge with others to help them avoid what happened to us. And network with others and learn if there is anything else we can do to lessen some of the damage done or even reverse some of it, via more holistic means if possible (needless to say, we no longer trust mainstream medicine anymore).
 

I am a mom of 3 children. One 7, one 4 1/2 and one forever 2years 3 months. Our youngest died last October during a 3+ hour seizure. She showed signs of neurological damage the morning after her 2nd round of shots. She went into Status 8 days after her shots. No history of seizures in her or either side of our   families. Her seizures continued and she developed many health difficulties. Through it all she was a bright shining spirit and was up until her death.
 

My 16 month old niece had a chicken pox vaccine and another vaccine 2 weeks ago. Yesterday morning she had full blown seizures for 10 mins, a 104.5 fever, and she stopped breathing. My sister, thank God, works w/ disabled people and knows cpr. She was paralyzed and unresponsive for hours after the seizures. she is moving now and responsive but not talking like she was and screaming horribly, I have never heard a child's screams that were so horrible as that--she had me in tears. The baby is now in the hospital. The doctors cannot find anything wrong w/ her and no reason for the high fever. If anyone has any links they could share specifically on the chicken pox vaccine, seizures, and the fact that 2 weeks is not too long after to still have vaccine reactions I'd appreciate it. My sister is open-minded-she treated her 2 dogs kc w/ echinacea and vit c as I said rather than taking them to the vet for drugs and is not vaccinating for anything more than rabies. She is listening to me and is willing to look into how to avoid vaccines, etc. She has no idea where to start.  She's young, 24, and she and her husband just got transferred to Florida. Any help is appreciated.
 

Nobody can convince me that SIDS isn't vaccine murder. The medical examiners MUST know this. Babies have been dying of SIDS for over 50 years and the medical establishment doesn't seem a bit concerned. They have done no real scientific research to determine why a healthy baby would die. I believe it is because they KNOW it is the vaccines and they BELIEVE that we are all stupid, literally. Sadly, the evidence is that the majority of parents are that stupid. It is a CRIME that they continue to do this to our infants and get a way with it.